Is It True About All The Negatives Of Salt?

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  1. Joy Martin

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    I was paranoid about salt for years BUT we Need Salts. I watch for too high salt content in processed soups and buy low sodium or "light" and at home I use only sea salts.

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...ore&cid=20220420&mid=DM1155924&rid=1466955648

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    • “Conventional wisdom” states that a high-sodium diet will increase your blood pressure, thereby raising your risk for a cardiac event. However, this claim is largely based on uncontrolled case reports from the early 1900s
    • A 2018 systematic review found no evidence of benefit from a low-sodium diet for those with heart failure
    • The randomized controlled SODIUM-HF trial, published in April 2022, also found no benefit for patients with Class 2 or 3 heart failure, as lower sodium intake had no statistically significant impact on clinical events
    • Contrary to popular belief, it’s actually hard to consume harmful amounts of sodium, but it’s easy to end up with too little. Symptoms of sodium deficiency include muscle fatigue, muscle spasm, cramps, heart palpitations, lethargy and confusion
    • Low-salt recommendations rarely take coffee intake into account, even though coffee consumption is extremely common and will rapidly deplete your salt stores. Sweating will also eliminate salt from your body, so if you sweat a lot, you may get rid of more than you add back in if you’re on a low-salt diet
     
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    Since heart problems have been widely and openly promoted and increased since wwII,
    addressing the salt and even changing it might not make a difference with twenty other things wrong too.
     
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    I don't know what is "popular belief" today,
    but almost everyone gets too much refined salt and it causes expensive health problems, even though it was noted almost a century ago and could have been avoided.
     
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    Remember the 'salt' that won't clump when it rains/is humid?
    Very bad stuff - it ALSO will not DISSOLVE in the body/ in the blood stream, and causes vascular wounds/damage every where it bumps into the blood vessel walls where inflammation and /or scar tissue then results, throughout the bloodvessel system.

    Finding very soluble and natural salt sources is very important, and is not usually what is in any processed foods or drings.

    "The Salt Conspiracy" is not a new thought nor a new book. It was written many decades ago
    to expose what industry, the sickness /profit industry,
    was and still is doing that harms people everywhere or every age,
    and animals too, though maybe not as much.
     
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    I think if you have normal kidney function, too much salt is difficult to attain. When you think of the centuries--perhaps millennia--when salt was used as a preservative, I think humans developed the ability to handle high levels of salt. Studies I read years ago were unable to prove that the sodium was the problem. Some scientists believed chlorine was perhaps the problem, in which case, switching to potassium chloride would not remedy the issue. If you drink a municipal water system water, chlorine comes as part of the package although not necessarily in the same form. I believe monitoring kidney function is the best way to deal with that issue. If your BUN (Blood Urea Nitrogen) begins to rise, be careful what you take in as far as water-soluble nutrients are concerned.
     
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    It was found that a lot of sodium was not necessarily a problem IF enough potassium as taken as well. Too much sodium without potassium led to many difficulties.

    Also, refined salt is what is toxic, even in small amouts caused ongoing harm, not natural normal occurring salt in nature that humans have used and consumed for thousands of years.

    Refining salt, and some or most other simple foods or drinks , leads to lifeless food, causing harm also by imitating full-life /living food or drink.
     
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    To get the Iodine my body needs I take 1-2 drops of Iosol iodine now for 15 yrs or more. Dr. David Williams put me on to this iodine need a long time ago. When I can I eat seafoods but don't get enough....I'm working on that more recently.
     
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    Some people grab a salt shaker before they even taste the food. If you refrain from that, your normal diet should take take care of your sodium requirements but not in excess.
     
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    I thought that municipalities changed the mix so that chlorine would stay in the water as a disinfectant all the way through the transport system, rather than evaporating partway down the pipes. As a kid, I could let my fish tanks "season" for 48 hours and the chlorine would be gone. As an adult, a chemical neutralizer was required...and my hot showers felt like I was in a gas chamber (this was Northern Virginia.) And I drank very little other than tap water. I've always worried about the lingering effects. I am so glad to be on well water, even if I did have to install a salt-based softener.
     
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    My father worked retail in the old days (G.C. Murphy Co.) He knew (in passing) the owner of J.C. Penneys. They called him Salt & Pepper Penney because he would take prospective managers out for a meal, and if they seasoned their food before they even tasted it, he would not hire them...they flunked the interview.

    And you're right...in America, there ain't no way you're ever gonna have a salt deficiency. I mostly use Kosher salt and Himalayan sea salt these days when I season my food.
     
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    So what's the current thought on the correlation between high salt diets and high blood pressure? And I was not aware of coffee depleting my salt levels. YIKES! I do take salt pills when working outside on hot days. I used to put potassium chloride in my grapefruit juice before statins took that treat out of my diet.
     
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    So are you saying you take statins? My poor daughter has two damaged feet from collapsed tendons from a drug pushing doctor, he pushed statins like crazy.
     
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    Yeh, I read your post on that. I go off of them and my cholesterol skyrockets to over 300.
     
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    023D1E0C-D9F5-4AA7-9022-AF324F602E55.gif I won’t buy salt from certain countries ..mainly Pakistan ,I’ve been through my pantry and binned all I had that was labeled product of Pakistan due to reports of contamination.
    I was told years ago to limit / and preferably not to use any salt in / on my foods …then when I have a blood test I’m told my salt levels are to LOW …..and to eat more salt …..just can’t win
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33684706/

    @John Brunner I’d check if your Himalayan sea salt is really from India …..but labeled Himalayan sea salt ….it’s a buyer beware world we are living in …I check labels on any food products we consume ..even some of fresh foods are coming from China
     
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    I just looked.
    Product of Pakistan.

    So I assume that no Himalayan sea salt would be a good thing to eat, right? Do I want it to be from India? I mean, it could be Himalayan and originate from any of 5 countries, assuming there are salt deposits across the entire chain.

    I bought a bunch of this at the Dollar Store to have in my stores. This sucks.
     
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