And The Mass Shootings Continue!

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  1. Cody Fousnaugh

    Cody Fousnaugh Supreme Member
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    Now this, Ken, I really, really do believe.
     
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  2. Mary Stetler

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    The good news is that this does not have to be Federally demanded, yet. School boards and communities can work with it. They just don't know it.
     
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    You know, I've read on this forum about what we should do with these mass shooting killers, but what about the parents that don't store their firearms away from their kids?

    Just recently, a 2-yr. old found a loaded firearm and shot/killed his/her father while the father was playing a video game. The mother is now in jail for manslaughter due to the firearm being left out to where the child found it.
    Here is the story:
    Mother Charged With Manslaughter After 2-Year-Old Fatally Shoots Father - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
     
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  4. Ken Anderson

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    I think most of us were raised by parents who taught us well enough that they didn't have to, which would have included, not only gun safety but also a standard of ethics that would have precluded the desire to shoot up a school. As I've mentioned elsewhere, we usually had at least one gun leaning against the wall by the backdoor when I was growing up, yet I managed not to shoot up my school. Probably, when I was two, it was kept out of my reach, but I don't remember anything from when I was two. Until I was taught how to use a gun (at 11 or 12, or something like that), I didn't touch them. No amount of laws are going to prevent killers from killing. The objective should be one of not raising killers, yet the same agenda that would take away our guns is designed to remove all semblance of ethics from society.
     
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    I, too, grew up in a home where there were rifles in the "back room closet." Rifles, mind you, since Dad's line was: "Pistols are to kill people and since we don't plan to kill anyone we don't need...." The rifles were checked to by unloaded before the door was closed. The ammo was kept on a shelf high up on a shelf only Dad (6ft.5 tall) could reach. . The doctrine was EVERY GUN IS LOADED,!!! NEVER TO BE POINTED AT ANY THING YOU DON'T INTEND TO SHOOT!!!! I got a 22 cal pump action rifle when I was 12-13 (don't remember exactly). I still have it. The gun training was extensive. One part, for example: 'Climbing through or over a fence, the rifle is laid flat on the ground on the other side before climbing through or over.' Another was that the shooter must know where the bullet would be stopped before shooting, thus not into the bushes. There was more. I don't recall ever being in a home with hand guns on the counter top. (I've posted something like this before.)
     
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    About the same for me. My dad taught me the proper use of a gun. I didn't always follow it, but neither did I shoot anyone, accidentally or on purpose. In elementary school, a friend of mine shot his hand off while placing a loaded shotgun back in the case, so that sort of sent that message home. I wasn't there but we all surely noticed when he came to school with a hook arm. We also had a gun course in Boy Scouts, and it was available in high school, although I didn't feel like I needed another one. As I've mentioned in this forum before, it wasn't at all unusual to see guns in a pickup truck rack in the student parking lot.

    My dad had a handgun, probably because it was sometimes handier with critters inside the barn or in a shed, but I only saw the handgun once. I don't even know where he had it stashed, but it was never out like the rifles and shotguns were.
     
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    Education is the key but education in this country is headed downhill in most areas.
    Schools had shooting clubs, boy scouts had classes for merit badges, I would think. Kids were taught safe use of fire arms.
    I use my pistol, mostly for dispatching small predators. I have a 22 rifle for foxes but have never shot at one because of the subdivision to the north.
    I posted one of the positive uses of a gun, here, by a child where a thief broke in and shot his grandmother. He went to her nightstand, got her gun and shot the intruder who was intent on robbing her. There are a lot of stories where guns are used, present day, for defense but we never see them in the news. It is to get gun control.
    I will say it again, Cody. MILLIONS of people have MILLIONS of guns and their families don't use them and/or are not hurt.
    The thing that kills most young adults today is fentanel (sp) being smuggled across our undefended border and we don't hear about that in the news either.
    If people wanted to protect the kids right now, they would stop waiting for the gov't to stop arguing just to stay elected. People should have metal detectors installed NOW to protect their kids, (and door locks) in schools and vote the 'law makers' OUT.
     
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    And now, if you haven't heard about it yet, the 21 year old that killed 6 people sitting on a 4th of July Parade route and injured 30 others in Highland Park, Illinois. He used a high-powered rifle, using a fire escape ladder to get the roof of a nearby building. He escaped the scene by dressing as a woman, including a wig, and putting on ladies makeup to cover his facial tattoos. He walked to his mother's house, got her car and took off towards Wisconsin. He wound up in Madison and was going to do another shooting there, but decided not to (due to no planning). He returned to Illinois and was caught there.

    Just now read that he has confessed to the killings and, while having his first court appearance today, showed absolutely no emotions when read the charges against him.

    Many questions are being raised about him as well as his family.
     
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    The court will assign him a Defense Attorney. In all honesty, does anyone think that any mass shooter should have a Defense Attorney? I know one thing, I sure wouldn't want to be the Defense Attorney for a mass shooter! Absolutely no way!!
     
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    Here we had mass killing where a guy plowed a truck through a holiday parade group of bystanders--mostly children and grandparents.
    I think they should pass a law to confiscate all pick up trucks that might be used in mass killings.
     
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    It is basically our law. Our laws are set up, now, to be used against us.
     
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    Maybe we should ban men from dressing as women.
     
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    Interesting that he wore women's clothes but appears to have a moustache and Maynard G. Krebs wispy beard.

    Since he has confessed, maybe the taxpayers won't have to pay for a trial for the bottom-of-the-shoe residue.
     
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    to bad He could not of met his demise on the road.
     
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    They were trying to say that he is a right wing extremist, but he is an antifa member, has a tattoo of the power fist for socialism/communism, and I read that one of his parents was running for office as a democrat.
    No one looking at this person is going to ever mistake him for a Trump supporter, that is for sure ! !

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