In Your Opinion, Was Joe Biden Fairly Elected In 2020?

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In your opinion, was Joe Biden fairly elected in 2020?

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  1. Don Alaska

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    As @Ken Anderson wrote, it is very difficult to rig House votes as there are so many and in varied environments, while there are only 30-35 elections to rig for the Senate. The Presidential election is a relative cake-walk, as only one election is to be decided. That is why there were so many preprinted ballots with only "Biden" chosen. They didn't necessarily know which precincts the ballots were going to be stuffed into.
     
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    Of course I think Biden was fairly elected.

    Ben Ginsberg, well-known conservative election attorney, and co-author of a thorough study done on the six battleground states in the 2020 election (July 2022), concluded there was no fraud that changed the outcome in even a single precinct in those 6 states. This man testified under oath. He was not just bloviating on an obscure internet website.

    FULL REPORT


    BRIEF DISCUSSION


     
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  3. Ken Anderson

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    Republican, but not conservative. Like Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, and Susan Collins.
     
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    In 2020, there were 168.31 million voters registered in the United States. More voters turned out than usual, about 68% of the registered voters, which comes out to about 111,099,780 people who actually voted.

    The amount of votes counted between Biden, Trump, and other miscellaneous candidates was 158,431,190 votes.
    If only 111 million people were actually voting, where did the other votes come from ?

    If President Trump received 74 million votes, out of the possible 111 million, that only leaves about 37 million legal votes possible for Biden, and over 2 million of those votes went to the independent candidates.

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  6. Trevalius Guyus

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    Lol! So, the panel of experts who concluded that the election was, for a fact, won by Biden, could not do the simple math you provided using your (incorrect) voter statistics? Yeah, OK, sure, whatever........
     
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  7. James Hintze

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    There are numbers floating around here that show that Biden couldn't have won the election without some cheating. Strange that none of that found the way to courts when the republicans were trying to change the results of the "fake" election.
     
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    If those stats are incorrect then instead of refuting them with a “whatever”, do please provide what you deem to be the correct statistics.

    And to be a tad picky, if you’ll note the sources of the stats that were provided, you will readily see that they aren’t Yvonne’s stats but those of two separate agencies.
    In short, you’re accusing her of making up those stats when in fact all she did was to transfer the information from one site to this one.
     
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    That’s already been argued to death but to recap…….

    When the writs were presented to the Supreme Court (twice), they didn’t say that the accusations weren’t true but merely said they wouldn’t hear the case because of the format that was used in the presentation.
    Basically, the writs had to be broken down into smaller parcels which could be handled by the lower courts.

    There are still cases about voter fraud relating to the 2020 election that are awaiting to be heard by individual courts and if one so chose to do the research, a number of people have been proven guilty of voter fraud and are presently serving sentences.

    Just to be real, to me what is done is done but if I was one of the people responsible for putting Biden in office and seeing the way this country is crashing around our heads, I’d be a little more curious as to whether the accusations of fraud were true.

    Of course, if someone such as yourself is content with the way things worked out, why bother trying to find out the facts?
     
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    As I've mentioned before, I like to think of myself as a "news junky." I spend considerable time reading different news sources, including some like Fox that lean toward the right. So yes, I do look for facts. If you, or anyone else can help me find some that I might be missing I'd be grateful.
     
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  11. Bobby Cole

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    As I pointed out James, the whole debacle has been talked to death.
    I truly believe that everyone who is content with the results will not budge no matter what proofs are made available just as I also believe that those who are certain that the whole election Was fraudulent will not budge either.

    I have a weird way of approaching a subject I am interested in.
    I always assume that the information I have received is erroneous and then go forward trying to prove it to be so. It’s not that I like to be wrong, it’s just that using my method of study, I have to cover all the bases but there’s a catch:
    As it stands, the information that was readily available to the voting public is disastrously scattered and at the present time, whatever new information might be held, isn’t being revealed..
    From my view, all the major forms of media are aping previously made assertions if they are saying anything at all.

    It’s like a book that is being written by an author who suddenly decided to quit writing. There are still pages to be written and chapters to be made but everything came to a halt and only the author knows how the book ends.
    Or, maybe that book HAS been written and the last few pages have been torn out?
     
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  12. Yvonne Smith

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    The statistics I quoted were from the United States Census Bureau, and from Statistica.com, which is a well-known advanced technology company.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistica
    The amounts of the votes for each candidate is a screenshot of what was published on national television on NBC right after the election.

    Which one of those sources do you feel was incorrect, @Trevalius Guyus , and can you provide more accurate statistics than the ones I quoted ?
    Whether the panel of experts could or could not do the math is the only thing that I see that could be in question, and whether they accurately reported it to the voters.
     
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  13. Ken Anderson

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    I am not going to argue the statistics but I would think that incorrect statistics are to be expected in a fraudulent election - that's sort of what it's all about - and that this might include incorrect numbers of eligible voters, incorrect vote counts, and all the way down the line, and the fact that it was successful would guarantee that the false numbers are accepted as correct by those who are okay with the fraud. We'll never get to the bottom of it statistically and, in a Biden administration, we're not going to get anything resembling facts, given that he directly benefited from it. Plus, the US government is more interested in maintaining the appearance of fair elections than in guaranteeing actual fair elections, so very few people in government, from politicians down to the bureaucracy, would be interested in admitting that our elections are as fraudulent as those in other countries that we once made fun of. In other words, just because you believe something, it doesn't necessarily follow that everything else is incorrect.

    In my own town, when we checked the voter registration rolls about ten years, ago we had more people registered to vote than we had people over the age of 18, and this included people who were registered to vote in two, three, and even as many as four addresses in town, as well as others who had died, and a large number who had moved away years ago and were probably voting in both places. All of this was perfectly legal, according to our Democrat Secretary of State, and the local registrar said that she was forbidden from cleaning up the voter lists as she once had.
     
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  14. Trevalius Guyus

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    Ultimately, by the above, anything said about Biden's actual win, could be said about any election, in any year, in any country.

    I'm fine with those, in here, who want to keep parroting the line about Trump really winning the election. If that gives them some rush, so be it. It amuses me, so, whatever.......
     
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  15. Ken Anderson

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    That's very condescending of you. Does that make you feel superior in some way? I can say that I am amused by those who actually believe that Biden could have won the election honestly. That seems more than a little naive.
     
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