Medical Info - You Be The Judge

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Hedi Mitchell, Aug 25, 2022.

  1. Hedi Mitchell

    Hedi Mitchell Supreme Member
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    When my mother died over 20 years ago, she had a massive stroke and hemotoma to the head. Few years later I was reading notes my doctor had written about family memebers and her death was listed as a brain tumor! Nooo ! Several times since then i have noticed just meds and dosageswrong onnotes doctors make about patients.Tuesday took hubby to see heart doctor, to rule out any known issues due to his gentecic family problem. Doctor asked few questions,and hubby answers. Asked about chest pain, no hubby replied. Then docor makes mention of a mass removed during hubbys 2018 colonscopy.Mass, what mass ? He had three begin polyps removed . When we came home I refered back to doctors notes on line and found cause of the tests he issued, two or three things were listed, along with chest pain?
    What? I thought um, maybe he needed that as a syntom in order for Medicare to pay? Point is why are symptoms being listed that patients deny? I understand some people are not totally honest with their doctors, but reagrdless doctors and nurses should not enter untrue data in a system that will be looked by a mutlitude of medical people. I find this verey dsiturbing.I intend on asking why the doctor listed chest pain. In the meantime am contacting the doctor who did colonscopy to see what mass was he refering to? Am I being over concrned here?
     
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  2. Bobby Cole

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    I don’t think you’re being overly concerned at all Hedi.

    If something should happen (God forbid), the attending physician would look at the past records and might use them to come up with a diagnosis and possibly more tests that your husband might not need.

    Even if nothing serious does happen, errant records lead to mistakes.

    In my own case, somehow my VA records changed my blood type from B+ to O+ to which I hit the ceiling about.
     
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  3. Cody Fousnaugh

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    One thing for sure, it's not always the doctors fault for some things. If a patient doesn't tell, or ask, their doctor some things, the doctor can only think the patient is doing fine. If a doctor says, "so how are you doing today?" and the patient answers "just fine", the only way a doctor is going to find out things is by blood pressure results, listening to chest/heart and so on. Then the doctor says, "I thought you just told me you felt fine?"

    People have to be truthful with their doctor as well as visa-versa.
     
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  4. Faye Fox

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    Not at all! Sometimes doctors and especially nurses will put down their opinions. On one of my ER visits due to vertigo from an inner ear disorder, the nurse put down I didn't understand what was happening to me after I explained in detail what my disorder was and how my neuro-otologist said to treat it in the ER. He said I was delusional and it was just common vertigo and had nothing to do with endolymphatic fluid surges. I was furious when I got better and read his report and went to the head of the hospital and even the nurse's board. I understand my condition better than any doctor except a neuro-otologist. They had given me a medication that was on my NO list. I got very sick with swollen arms and other problems.

    I was basically ignored by the hospital admin and the head nurse. I consulted an attorney and he said yes he could win a lawsuit but the thing is Oregon has limits, so I would spend more than I would recover. Hospital insurance companies will spend a million to beat you out of $1000 because they cannot afford to have a precedent set and bad publicity. Lawyers seldom take medical cases on contingency because they know the settlement offered will not even pay their fees. It is medical tyranny.

    I have never seen that nurse again because if I do, I will be posting from jail because I will kick his cajones up so high he will think they are swollen tonsils. :mad::D:D:D
     
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  5. John Brunner

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    I've had the same thing. I forget exactly what I saw noted on my record regarding "Patient complaint," but I had them change it. For goodness sake, I've had a doctor infer that treatment is more likely to be covered "If you would only say..." (in an effort to help me out) I decline. I don't want to have a future medical problem and the next doctor is looking at garbage that's just made up when he's arriving at a diagnosis and course of treatment.
     
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  6. Beth Gallagher

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    Ugh; how annoying (and potentially dangerous). I'm sure a lot of stuff is embellished for the benefit of insurance coverage, but medical records need to be accurate.

    When having cancer treatment, they'd focus a lot on a patient's emotions.... "are you depressed, do you have suicidal thoughts, etc." Well, I finally told one nurse "Who wouldn't be depressed when having cancer???" Later that day I got a call from a Support Therapist which really infuriated me.

    I must say, having access to MyChart and seeing the doctors/nurses/technicians notes have been an eye-opener.
     
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  7. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Well, I'm going to reverse a little. IOW, I've had a few hassles with my VA Medical. I order Tramadol 50mg the first of each month and it gets mailed to me. One time I order it, done a follow-up and was told the prescription was in Will-Call awaiting my pick-up. I told the lady that I never do a pick-up of any VA prescription, because Cheyenne, Wyoming is too far away from us. If I wouldn't of called and done the follow-up, have no idea how long that prescription would've sat in Will-Call.

    Another time, I called to do a follow-up on the same prescription and was told "it hasn't been filled yet, but will be tomorrow and sent out". Fifteen minutes later, a UPS truck shows up and delivers my prescription. It was sent to me UPS Red (overnight), sent out he day before. Have no idea why this lady told me what she did. I mean, they look right at a computer screen that suppose to be saying "Not Filled Yet", "Filled" and either "Sent Out" or "In Will-Call".
     
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  8. John Brunner

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    #1: Regarding your suicidal thoughts...if you had said you were fine, they'd have institutionalized you on the spot for being so disconnected from reality and billed Medicare. That's infuriating, and just another example of getting in a billable event at your expense. You KNOW that call was billed to insurance, and they took your "Eff Off!" and wrote down "Patient sent me her love."

    #2: I was gonna mention the online access to the actual doctor verbiage as a huge insight into my records, versus the paper receipt with the Codes and their check boxes. I'm sure that's where I saw the disconnect from reality.
     
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  9. Beth Gallagher

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    Oh, I'm sure they billed for that "emotional support" phone call. People on the BC forum have reported that they have to be extremely cautious with what they say to their care providers or they will get "mentally unstable" bullshit written on their permanent records. I just can't imagine that any doctor or nurse would believe that a person in treatment for a life-threatening illness would be whistling zip-a-dee-doo-dah.

    And as I told my doctor... "if I were suicidal, why the hell would I be putting myself through the torture of chemo, surgery and radiation????" Dumbwads.
     
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    Some of the record errors are probably insurance/Medicare fraud--billing for things not true. Some were just stupidity. When I sat on a hospital safety committee, I was amazed at how many errors were made and how it was thought as just routine. Pharmacy, Imaging and Lab made few if any errors, but the Nursing Service--oh my! Nursing errors were due to lack of education, improper training, or the stress of having too much to do with too little staff. The Docs made a few errors as well, and when they did, it could be terrible. None of the data is public, but inspectors see it.
     
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    Believe it or not, Beth, each time I call the VA Medical Clinic or Hospital, in the recording it asks "Do you feel like you want to harm yourself or someone else?" and then the same recording will give a phone number or transfer to a Hot Line, if the answer is "yes".

    Actually, today, I think doctors, thru law, are obligated to ask, what we think are, stupid questions. It's not to get the patient mad, it's to protect the doctor's medical license. It's all under the term, liability.
     
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  12. Faye Fox

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    So who gave you the authority to tell any member what is enough? You don't order me or anyone else on here around. Your arrogance and chauvinism and donning a superior white robe claiming a divine connection are just disgusting.

    No, you weren't joking Cody and you know it. Be honest if that is possible for you. You took an unnecessary poke at me trying to make me look like a vulgar person and shame me on the forum. If I wanted to use more vulgar words I would, but that is not who I am. I have respect for Ken and his forum and used the exact words I wanted. Quit judging others and take a look in the mirror. Read a few bible verses on humility and bragging. and casting judgment.

    I am off here for now anyway as I don't feel that my presence here is of any value when I have to waste time and add to a thread's interruption because of your judgemental arrogance and holier-than-thou attitude.
     
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  13. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Wow, Faye, talking about calling someone names! Anyway, all I can say is.............whatever. I've already apologized to Ken and Yvonne and deleted my replies off.

    And, if Ken ever decides to ban me, I'll accept that. And, again, I was only teasing/joking, but you seem to only enjoy your joking around. But, that's ok. Anyway, another "Sorry" to you.
     
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    That's abusive.
     
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    That reminds me. I went to PT yesterday and was taken to a machine to have the volume in my arms measured/compared. The therapist typed in my last name to pull up the record and oddly, picked a record in a name that is my middle name. I go by my middle name, but all my legal records, insurance, etc. are in my first name, including at MD Anderson.

    I told her, "that is not my record. My record should be under _______ _______." She got flustered and started asking me, "were you here in 2019?" "Is your address blah, blah??" I looked at her and said, "that is NOT my record. My Medical Record Number is XXXXXX." (So she is showing me another woman's records, a HIPA violation.) She sighed and said "I guess I'll have to start over." o_O I replied "only if you want my insurance to cover this." :rolleyes:
     
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