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Discussion in 'Politics & Government' started by Ken Anderson, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Denise Evans

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    Ditto on this @Ken Anderson, I've been accused of being too logical, actually it may have been a compliment when I look back on it, but yeah, if we are at war with an "ununiformed" army, how can we know. What would be the best way to get to us, of course, would be to get their people on the inside.

    It's in all the movies!! No, I'm really not joking, so many movies are true to life, and I think people, and unfortunately children get ideas from movies. It's like "hey, their door is open, we don't even need a Trojan Horse".
     
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    You're right about the repetition, and corner the folks against Trump, or any conservative, they "do" fall back to the same old stuff. I think it's old already, look at the numbers for Trump. I mean, I don't know about the rest of the States. But in my opinion, he has won some real biggies. Most of our population is in the East right? Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just think he is going to be so good for us, I just hope the majority thinks so too.
     
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    It's amazing to me just how many staunch Conservatives talk negatively about Trump and state they'll do whatever it takes to prevent him from winning the nomination/being elected. In my opinion, those people are the problem. I haven't even settled yet on which person will receive my vote, and I would certainly not say #NeverTrump, because I know they're either misinformed or lying when they say he's a racist, and that 'all' of his supporters are, too. I'm tired of labels being thrown around, and large groups of people being smeared by Conservatives they way they've been accusing leftists of doing for years. Suddenly, because they're not getting their way, they're resorting to the same tactics they've been blasting others for using. That tells me that they are the ones changing their positions, and makes me wonder what it is they really stand for.
     
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    Someone mentioned about a the "parties" getting mixed or even the possibility of the two-party system going away. The country is such a mess, divided, and people are starting to vote for people in the other party. It's all so crazy, and yes, both sides accuse the other of the same things they are doing themselves.
     
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    This was on a very conservative and religious FB friend's post. She has been a very active Cruz supporter.
     
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    Haha @Chrissy Page I have many I follow that post similar things. It makes me laugh that some consider me very rightwing conservative and religious. I do consider myself religious, but not in the way some others are, and I consider myself more middle of the road, with libertarian leanings. I have usually fit right in with both rightwing and libertarian groups on Twitter, but these days, I'm seeing more of a divide, and I think we're seeing true colors from many people who've kept them hidden for a long time. I've voted for Cruz in the past, but several of his ads turned me off. I don't agree with all of what Trump says, but I recognize that no candidate will fit into everything I believe in and agree with, and that comprises need to be made. I don't think Trump has come as far as he has without knowing how to work with people, compromise, and build a concensus, and I think those are necessary things to getting our country back on track.
     
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    I'm middle of the road on many issues, I'm not far right but I'm not left either. Have voted Republican most of my voting life. If Trump doesn't get the nomination, I can't see myself voting for any other republican.

    I won't vote for Hillary for anything in the world either, but the Republicans better think about what they are doing going against Trump. Hillary might be the next Prez! :(
     
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    This speech at aiipac was probably the best speech I have ever heard Donald orate or for that matter, the best of all the speeches by any candidate today. It's a bit lengthy but there isn't a slow moment in it and kept the crowd on their feet throughout the entire speech. It's a MUST listen!
     
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    He seems to be on track to getting the delegate number he needs, although it will be close. He's not going to do well in Utah, and the only reason Kasich is still in is to siphon off a few delegates here and there. Another step that the GOP leadership is going to do is to try to steal his delegates at the state conventions that precede the national convention. There are different rules in different states but one trick they like to pull is to elect people to the delegate positions who are not really in favor of the candidate who earned the delegates at the caucus or primary. Some states allow them to vote however they wish even on the first ballot, while any of them are free to vote however they want if no one is nominated on the first ballot.
     
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    Okay, so Trump lost in Utah, but by how much is the question at this point?
    I heard a little scuttlebutt and did some checking and there are a lot of charges out there concerning voter fraud.
    Here's a pretty good read concerning one Utah citizen and his experience at his caucus.
    http://www.infowars.com/utah-voter-reveals-fraud-i-literally-had-over-50-ballots-in-my-hand/

    And, if that tidbit didn't get you riled up just a smidgen here's the scoop on who finances a lot of what goes on in the computer room.
    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/massive-voter-fraud-tonight-utah-primary/

    What is absolutely hilarious about the whole scenario is that both Glen Beck and Romney, two self proclaimed heavy hitters in the Church of the Latter Day Saints and full blown Christians are backing Cruz. Now, why would any self respecting real Christian put up with fraud much less be a party to it?
    Oh yeah, I forgot. Morals and ethics are only for us common folk. Politicians, even evangelical politicians, get a free pass.
     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/cruz-ad-slut-shames-trumps-wife-160059332.htm

    When it gets to this kind of "mud slinging" in Politics...it is just going to far! And what really makes me sick to my stomach is that even though the "Cruz" side started this...once again Trump is being blamed for it all by probably 98% of the media, etc.! When I look at Cruz the first word that comes to my mind is "slimeball"....and I don't like that but it's the truth. And so far he is living up to that in every sense of the word. The real "in control" Republican Party is showing its true colors...even flaunting these colors to me and it's an ugly Party that needs to be torn down in my opinion. If Trump can help do that...then he will be doing us all a big favor.
     
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    My goodness @Babs Hunt, such passion! But, that said, I love it!! Normally, I hate it when the public has to fight in order to be heard but this time I do hope that other's share the same passion that you do when the election comes down to the wire.
     
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    I'm passionate about everything that I feel deeply about @Bobby Cole and I too hope other's share that same passsion as you said "when the election comes down to the wire!" I believe it's time to "tear down" some of our media bias too.
     
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    The Anti-Trump organization showed that picture of Melania all over the highly Mormon Utah just prior to the election. Oh course he lost….that was their plan. And they photoshopped it to look like she was showing more than the original photo. Then made a big deal when Trump said he'll talk about Cruz's wife if they don't stop. They fail to mention that Trump was first attacked mercilessly. He always fights back. Who wants a president that won't fight back when attacked?? Well, might as well get it all out there before he becomes President. Then it will be old news and everyone bored with it.

    They did the same thing to Kate Middleton with the whole modeling a black bikini (or negligee?) in college. That fizzled out quickly though because the media isn't so nasty there as to continue on and on. They just dropped it.

    Of course it didn't help that he called Mitt Romney a "liar", a highly respected Mormon there. Never mind the fact that he IS a liar. Guess the Utah Mormons didn't mind that part.
     
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    Cruz knows what is going on here and I wouldn't put it past him to have had a hand in it. He won another state only because he let it be known Carson was pulling out. He is a slimeball and if he becomes President...America will be slimed too!
     
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