Capsules Versus Food

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  1. Jeff Elohim

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    re "doesn't seem to have any effect at all"
    may be because it was manufactured to sell for money, to trick the buyers into thinking they are getting real and true vitamin/s/ ?

    When real vitamin c supplements are consumed, it definitely creates or causes a good and beneficial and very noticable effects, whether like an anti-histamin effect or other....

    The most 'subtle' effect of real vitamin c , and others, is the anti-oxident effect in the body that is needed to prevent or reduce daily damage by free radicals.
     
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    Jesus'Shalom Krystal Shay to you and your household TODAY.

    There are available whole-food powders and liquids , including minerals, vitaminns, amino acids, and a small multitude of other needed and helpful nutrients ,
    that are bio-available quickly and useful to the body, mind, bones, sinews, blood, lungs, brain, and so on.
    Search for them at once and gradually over time to find those that actually make a diffference. It usually takes time, unless you are able to see a tester who has sources of such. This is almost always not available thru medicare , medicaid, or ama doctors or hospitals at all.
     
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    Right.
    There are trace minerals that a plant doesn’t necessarily need in order to grow but will absorb them from the soil and since all animals including humans need those trace minerals we eat the plant that can provide them.
    Sadly though, the trace mineral content in the soil of edible plant producing farms is getting more depleted by the day hence supplementation.
    An example I have given a couple of times is Broccoli. Just 50-60 years ago a person could get all the Boron needed for a full day by eating a couple stalks of broccoli but now? A person would have to eat a couple of pounds or more of the stuff and still come up short.

    Now, about the water test though. The test seems a little strange since the entire digestive system is an acidic environment. Maybe I’ll try the test in some lemon juice.

    That said, it has been highly suggested that supplements (or nearly any pill or capsule) are taken just before or during a meal or snack when the digestive system is in full swing so as to create a better absorption rate and prevent bedpan bullets.
    So far as simple supplementation goes, if there’s a way to get a supplement in powder form, that’s the direction I go and if not, gel caps can be opened and poured into a shake or drink for immediate absorption.

    Note: As a suggestion for all. Start buying Vitamin C in powder form. It’s inexpensive so far as supplements go and one can easily ingest 1000mg a day in a juice. Jack LaLanne said so. (I personally take 4 grams)

    Note 2: Guys, do a little research into Cittruline Malate. It helps the body produce Arginine and Arginine helps produce Nitric Oxide.
    And what pray tell does Nitric Oxide do? Among other major things and although not as strong nor directional, nitric oxide production is the key feature of that “little blue pill”.
     
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    One of the things that I read, and it makes a lot of sense, is that anytime you take tablets or capsules, you should always eat some food along with it. The reason for this is that our body does not recognize a pill as food that ends to be digested, so it often can just pass right on through the system, unused by our body. However, when you actually eat some food, then our digestive system kicks into action, and the pills get digested and used right along with whatever food you eat.
     
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    Most things are not as simple as they seem.

    Around 2007 I noticed my feet starting to go numb. The causes can be numerous. My doc discovered (via blood test) that I was low on B12 -- which can be one reason -- so I got a series of shots, and continue to take supplements to this day. The only way to tell if they're helping is with a blood test.

    I was B12 deficient because I was taking a lot of antacids, which reduce stomach acid of course. But stomach acid is needed to extract B12 from the foods that contain it. So I could have eaten everything high in B12 (and I did) but my digestive system could not extract enough of it.

    So I take sublingual tablets, which are absorbed almost immediately into the bloodstream under the tongue, bypassing the digestive system. My B12 levels are good, although that wasn't the cause of my numbing feet. It was bone spurs pressing against my spinal cord in my neck. I had surgery in 2011 which more or less fixed it.

    Six-eight years ago my doc also discovered I was deficient in vitamin D (that and B12 deficiency are very common for us old cranks). I've been taking D supplements since and my levels are good. Just had a a blood test last month with a physical; B12 and D are good. I get a fair amount of sun in the summer, so I slack off the D pills somewhat, but during the winter I take one every day.
     
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    I always take my supplements with food and drink a full glass of water. I have been pretty healthy through the years (knock :)) so something is working for me.
     
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    Except for Levothyroxine, which is supposed to be taken on an empty stomach.
     
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    Yes, just follow the directions. Some things should be taken with food, some should not, and with some meds/supplements it doesn't matter.
     
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    Nutritious FOODS are vital but adding good quality supplements to our bodies helps to take up where the Depleted Soils have left our foods. And todays soils are VOID of nutrients aka minerals etc.
     
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    That is true except for hormones and many amino acids, which seem to be absorbed better on an empty stomach. Those folks on thyroid meds know to take them on an empty stomach.
     
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    I scanned a book written by the guy who discovered the effects of NO on the body and won the Nobel Prize for Medicine for it (I believe). He concentrated mostly on the cardiac benefits of NO and he recommended 10 grams--half in the AM and half in PM--of L-arginine AND 4 grams of L-citrulline taken in two doses as well. An expensive way to supplement.
     
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    I thought that iron (and Quercitin) were also best taken on an empty stomach.
     
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    I don't know about Quercetin. Some people cannot tolerate iron on an empty stomach, but you may well be correct.
     
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    I just refreshed my memory and the web says "without food OR with Vit C."

    We're all different. For some reason Alpha Lipoic Acid gives me heartburn if I take it with food, but when I moved it to "pre-breakfast" with the iron & quercitin, I've had no problems with it. Go figger...
     
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    Yeah, everybody has different tolerances. I did check a bottle of quercetin I have, and it simply says "with water".
     
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