A Permanent 3rd Rate Nation

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  1. Richard Whiting

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    Have you ever wondered why some nations are "1st rate" and others are MUCH further down the list ?

    Mexico is 3rd rate. Why would I say that ? Well, one example of thousands of examples is that the city, at least in Tijuana, shuts off the water. Often for days at a time. This week, the water has been shut off in a LARGE section of town for 4 days. That's right... 4 freaken days. No water for bathing, washing dishes or even flushing the toilet.

    The only way to overcome this , I had to take a taxi to another part of town and buy water from a "water seller".
    Even when city water is available, it is not fit for drinking.

    MEXICO... 3rd RATE NATION !
     
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    Speaking of Mexico being 3rd rate, Tijuana constantly dumps raw sewage directly into the Tijuana River which flows into the Pacific Ocean and in turn pollutes vast beaches of the USA. Only a few miles from San Diego/San Ysidro. This not only pollutes U.S. beaches, it also pollutes a large wild life sanctuary in the U.S.

    Surely, the U.S./San Diego County Govt, should be able to put pressure on the Tijuana/Mexican gov't to stop this disgusting pollution.
     
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    Why are they shutting the water off ?
     
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    Do you think the U.S. is not polluting much of the world ?
     
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    Your guess is as good as mine. Whatever the reason, one thing is for sure. The Mexican authorities simply don't care enough about the people.
    They shut off the water, for several days at a time, quite often. At least once per month.

    Complete lack of interest in people is quite common not only for Mexican authorities, but also for managers of stores and others who are SUPPOSED to provide service. Take supermarket managers , for example. Just because you can buy specific products, every day for months, does NOT mean that you will be able to buy that product ever again. No matter how many times customers have complained to the mgr. The product suddenly disappears from the shelves. Take Pepsi for example. I had been buying Diet Pepsi, from my closest large market, for years, when suddenly it disappeared from the shelves. But, If I go to a large market further away... no problem. Plenty of Diet Pepsi.

    Last night, after 4 days, the water came back on.
     
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    I am unaware of ANY U.S. city which dumps raw sewage into public lands and certainly not into neighboring countries.
     
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    We have that here, although perhaps not to the same extent. My wife and I joke that our only supermarket doesn't want to have to pay people to stock the shelves, so they only carry stuff that no one wants.
     
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    I also used to be unaware of the massive amount of pollutions being dumped , but now it is all too painfully known. Including radioactive waste contaminating people's homes that they have no choice but to live in , apparently with no options for moving and no clean up done in the last forty years.
     
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    Please, tell us where there is any radioactive waste being dumped in the U.S.
    Not an accidental release, like 3 mile Island, BUT a PURPOSEFUL dumping.
     
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    Jeff McMahon
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    Where have you been living in seclusion for the last eighty years ? It has been in the regular, streamed, online, printed and broadcast news many times a year every year.

    Plus, there is the fact that our government has a history of experimentation, which has included the deliberate infection of people with deadly or debilitating diseases, exposure to biological and chemical weapons, human radiation experiments, injections with toxic and radioactive chemicals, surgical experiments, and other tests. These tests have included children, mentally disabled people, prisoners, racial minorities, and soldiers. Briefly, I don't trust our scientists to get it right, and I don't trust our government to do the right thing.
     
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    That does not tell us that the U.S. has deliberately dumped radioactive wastes. To the best of my knowledge, radioactive waste is handled with extreme care and then buried in vast underground bunkers which are constantly monitored.

    Sorry Jeff , but I don't believe the U.S. GOVERNMENT deliberately dumps radioactive wastes. If the U.S. did so, there would be hell to pay.

    As far as radium is concerned, it is a "naturally occurring" element. True, it is a carcinogen , but it has been part of the naturally occurring environment since the beginning of time and has nothing to do with the gov't.
     
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    :D Another option would be to take 'self service' to another level:
    Customers go into the 'storeroom' and shop from there. All the staff would
    need to do is just open boxes as needed.
     
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    If that does not, what does?
    Deliberate dumping is common class these days, in and by the usa, yes.
    Yes, there is hell to pay, and most pay.
     
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    Can we get back to the topic of this thread, please ?

    I'm not the least bit interested in minor and harmless radioactive wastes. No matter who dumps it.
    Wrist watches that glow in the dark emit radioactive rays. If we used a geiger counter, I'm sure that we could find radioactive material in many locations around the world. So, what ? I said before and I repeat, if we dig a well, it is possible to find naturally occurring radioactive elements. Again, So what ?
    If i throw away my night glowing wrist watch, it can be said, by those who over-react, that I, personally, have dumped radioactive waste.
     
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