Son To Sue Over Pandemic Care Home Death

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  1. Reen Davis

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    A man is planning to sue a care home for their decision to put his 87yr old mother, who had
    dementia, on 'end of life' care without consulting with / informing the family.

    This happened during the first lockdown in 2020 when visitors were not allowed to go inside the home,
    but the man could see his mother through the window. On one visit he saw her slumped in her wheelchair
    and banged on the windows and door to find out what was wrong. He was told everything was fine and
    that his mother was just 'sleeping'. The following day he got a call telling him she had been put on
    'end of life care'. At the families insistence, she was moved to a hospital in the hope of getting some
    treatment for her, but died the next day.


    Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64164338

    Hospital records show that she was put on end of life care 2 days before the family was told.
    I am thinking that they wouldn't have been told at all if the son had not visited that day and seen
    something was wrong. They also showed she was diagnosed with suspected pneumonia while
    living in the home. End-of-life drugs were then prescribed and ordered by medical professionals.

    The son says the care home would always inform the family when their mother was not feeling
    well - so it seems suspicious to me that they didn't inform the family about the 'end of life' decision.

    Death certificate cause of death - Covid and dementia. Not pneumonia ?
    Unless I missed it - there is no mention of Covid anywhere else in the story, so strange it suddenly
    appears on the death certificate.

    The lawyer dealing with this case said that other families have now been in touch, saying their
    relatives were put on end-of-life care without consultation, echoing wider concerns about the
    "do not resuscitate" decisions during the pandemic
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    I remember reading a report that care homes were told if any resident caught Covid, NOT to send
    them to hospital !
    If this is true - I wonder how many lives were lost that might have been saved.
     
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    I am truly curious as to why there are not more suits about the governors of PA, CT, New York, and New Jersey putting Covid patients into care homes that were ill-equipped to deal with them and exposing all the other vulnerable residents to the disease. I know up here many were given diagnosis "Death by Covid" when they were already in hospice care for other ailments and sometimes only days or hours from death form other causes. Money is the answer, as they got better reimbursement if the people died FROM Covid, not WITH Covid.
     
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    I don't understand what this 'reimbursement' is - do the care homes get 'paid' every time someone dies and if so - why ?
     
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    @Don Alaska might remember better than I but hospitals and other care facilities were given around 5K from the government for each Covid patient they handled.
    Having a patient listed as a death from Covid even if they were in a car wreck assured the facility of another payday.
     
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    @Bobby Cole - Thank you Bobby No wonder so many 'died' from Covid ! So was this in UK,US, both ? I wonder
    how many countries were doing this.
    I wonder too - how many of those who died from the 'vaccine' were somehow listed as having died from Covid too.
    Wouldn't surprise me at all if they found a way to do it.
     
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    I believe only the U.S. was deliberately trying to inflate the Covid numbers. I suspect it was to make people fearful and more compliant with the government's wishes, but I don't know for sure. As far as I know, the UK Covid figures are accurate except for the vaccine reactions. Like the U.S., the UK (and probably other nations as well) have trouble tracking vaccine reactions, and not just Covid. We have discussed this before. Only about 10% of vaccine reactions are reported, so unless there is something that directly tracks to a vaccine, happens in a short time post vaccination, and severe enough to cause serious injury or death, the reaction is not reported. In the U.S. there is a system for self-reporting of such things, but almost nobody is aware of the system. I don't know about the UK or other countries.
     
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    I'm not 100% certain about the whole of the UK - but here in England we have an 'online' yellow card system for self reporting.
    I have read reports though where people who reported to their doctors were told their symptoms were 'not' related to the vaccines. Whether these reports are true I don't know.

    Coming back to 'care homes' - I wonder how many of the residents. especially those without family to intervene, were
    'forced' to have the vaccines whether they wanted them or not - then suffered bad side effects or even worse 'died' and then
    their cause of death listed as 'Covid'.
    When you consider that some residents will have 'dementia' or other conditions that make them unable to stand up for themselves
    or protest - it is a very distressing thought.
     
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    At least here, and I assume in other locations as well, vaccine reporting is actively discouraged by the medical establishment. I have had two vaccine reactions. One was serious and ended up in the ER after a flu vaccination, and the second was a whole-body rash after a pneumonia vaccination. The first was not reported, and the second was reported by me, as the facility refused to report it and actually deleted the vaccination record.
     
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    That's a real tough spot for all parties involved. Your elderly parents are in a community health care setting and the government has declared a "pandemic." What is the provider supposed to do? What duty do they have to protect those under their direct care? If the gov't says "pandemic," you gotta protect the population at large.

    There is so much [intentional] collateral damage from the deceit.
     
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    So sorry to hear of your bad experiences Don, hope you are fully recovered and no lasting side effects.
     
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    I can see where the care providers would be in a difficult situation over it and at the start of it all they probably believed they
    were doing the 'best' thing for those in their care. Those responsible for the fall out of all this are a lot higher up than the care
    providers.

    As for 'collateral damage' - I have another term for it - but I better not put it here.
     
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    I guess my theory fell apart when those places accepted the first COVID-positive resident "forced on them" by the state. When it rolled around to the 25th and beyond, they lost all moral authority.
     
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