Doctors, Nurses, Techinicians Resigning

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  1. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
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    I was sent this by a friend this a.m. and there's a lot of other news on the video so I am try to start the video on how many medical professionals are resigning, and why. If my link doesn't start there, you can go to 7:23 to start on what they're calling The Great Resignation:

     
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    I think this has been building. I know a G.I. doc and a pulmonologist that quit recently. Both of them cited excessive and overbearing regulation, some of it introduced with Obamacare. It sounded like it just simply wore them down. My family doc is getting ready to retire, age related. That’s probably another factor, lots of boomers retiring.

    Anything the government gets involved in turns into a mess. What was that Reagan joke about the worst words you can hear? “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”
     
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    I didn't think about the boomer thing but you are right on. So many good doctors I've had around me have of course grown old with me ;) But I think one thing too, I think you were hitting on, is burnout, especially when they are getting more short-handed. I would be at one time, even our hospital, Dental Clinic were excellent place to get cared for, but I hear from all sorts of people online in much bigger cities that are suffering from lack of doctors/nurses/hospitals that are suffering because medicare/medical are not covering many procedures or what I mean to say is they are not paying the reasonable prices to our healthcare providers :(
     
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    My PCP is retiring this year and I'm really sad that she is. She's the best doc I've had and I credit her for fast action when she suspected I had breast cancer. I saw her about a month ago and she said she is just tired and worn down. She told me that it is difficult dealing with demanding, rude people now, who feel entitled to call/email/message countless times a day, demanding a response. Everything from "the receptionist made me wait" to "how do I take these pills?" (She was very careful with wording this but I totally got what she meant.) I seldom considered what it must be like to deal with the general hateful and entitled population nowadays, but I don't think I'd care much for it.

    My original oncologist hinted that his frustration is with people who cannot seem to move on after cancer treatment. They live in total fear and make appointment after appointment to discuss random minor issues, wasting his time and their own, wanting more and more tests and scans. They can't accept being in remission or having no evidence of disease after treatment, year after year.

    People are just a bigger pain in the ass than they used to be.
     
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    I agree with that, and at the same time, workers are so stressed out they can be rude to the patients. Can't blame them, I don't see much changing for the good ;(
     
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    headin for the gym but will drop back in ;) Denise
     
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    I know some people who quit working EMS because of the COVID fiasco. They were on both ends of the scale, I suppose, since some of them quit rather than get the mandated vaccinations, while others were so afraid of the virus that they thought working EMS was too much of a risk.
     
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    I would imagine it would be frustrating to work in health care when 20% of the people are anti-vaxers. There are always a handful of them who enjoy sending nasty emails, even death threats. Some do it just to get attention.

    Same thing is happening to volunteer poll workers. It's one thing to give up a volunteer job; another to give up your career. Hopefully this too shall pass one day. Maybe not in our life times though.
     
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    Thanks for posting this @Denise Evans. I have posted about this before, but the video lays it out pretty well. I don't agree with him that the Nurse Manager or even the Administrator is going to be able to do much. The for-profit chains set the policies at the top and every one below them is judged according to those policies. If they don't follow what is dictated to them as the most profitable way to run things, they will simply be replaced.

    This began with the passage of Medicare back in the 1960s when the retired population was low. As the Baby Boomers came online, the government couldn't afford to pay for things as they were originally set up, so corners had to be cut. The entire process is too long to go into here, but a big step was taken when HIPPA was passed in the 1990s. The passage of Obamacare made everything catastrophically worse, as it was designed in part to put small medical practices out of business since they were too difficult for the government to track, and the practices were saddled with requirements very difficult and expensive to comply with, and the government overseers were constantly threatening doctors with "compliance audits", which, if failed, would result in crippling fines. Healthcare, despite what that physician said about it being so nice and peaceful and wonderful, was never so for the ancillaries and support personnel such as the nurses, techs, assistants and all the others that doctors used to just give orders to. Healthcare was always stressful. Medicare reimbursement has been declining as regulations increase. It is far more profitable for a hospital to treat a Medicaid patient than Medicare patient who has paid premiums all their working lives.

    Who knows what will happen in the future, but things do look pretty bleak to me.
     
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    When I was young if you ask what they wanted to be when they grew up, many said a doctor. That has changed and so has the care we receive now.
    What person wants to be in a profession that took years of hard study to make the wages they do today?
    I think they should be well paid even rich considering how taxing it is on the mind and body.
    Too many poor to care for now and millions more coming in every year. I had to help a heart doctor who was having a bad panic attack a couple years ago. He just needed to talk at the time and Jake, and I were the only ones there, he had just lost a patient. I complimented my eye doc last month too which he deserved, we talked for awhile and he was smiling when I left. Not giving myself credit just saying sometimes they do appreciate knowing they are appreciated.
    No society can support the world. Maybe this is why doctors don't care for the patient as much as they did. I don't trust them now its trust but verify.
     
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    My PCP tried to retire last year, but her clinic begged her to stay and let her cut back to 3 days a week. She has a replacement that follows her same line of superb family treatment, but the clinic doesn't want her to leave the urgent care. She cites that besides her age, mid 60s, when covid turned medicine political, it was time to retire. Leave medicine and treatment up to the PRACTICING doctors, not politicians with medical degrees.

    Many years ago my world famous neuro-otologist doctor scientist retired saying that his age of 70 or his wife's insistence, had no bearing on his retirement, but it was Obama Careless and the government and the insurance pukes that made his decision. He joked that he suspected his wife voted for Obama.

    The good thing about many big city doctors of excellent repute that lean more conservative and hate all the woke crap that has been forced on those big medical centers, is our smaller town is getting them to come here and enjoy a more relaxed atmosphere where patients are appreciative of high quality care.

    The foreign born and trained doctors are taking over most of the big city jobs. They get USA medical degrees in trade for 5 or more years servitude at busy big city hospitals. Most of the foreigners I have been to are outstanding doctors. It is sad that not many USA born kids can become doctors without taking on loans they will pay till retirement or become servants of the government.
     
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    I would put a different twist on that. "Anything the government chooses to destroy they, do so in "our best interests."

    People have more than humans have ever had in the history of the planet, and for the most part, they've done little to earn or deserve it. It's all "entitlement" and zero "gratitude."
     
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    Even 8 years ago, my friend and doctor retired because of insurance and quotas.. He became a used car company owner.
    ????
    He said it was no longer rewarding to be a doctor, caring for people (and he made good money).
     
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    When we are in the exam room with our doctors, the invisible parties are:
    -Government regulators
    -"Professional" associations
    -Licensing boards
    -Insurance carriers
    -Lawyers
     
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