Will The Hamas-israeli War Bring Ww3?

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  1. Dwight Ward

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    Innocent people are always killed in wars, I guess you think Israel should stand down and be trampled on?

    I don't pick out good guys and bad guys as you seem to be doing. I see no heroes. Do you not see that the IDF's slaughter of innocent Palestinians is as equally horrible as Hamas' terror attacks on innocent Israelis? We need to wish and work for peace between people of different backgrounds and an end to this Satanic-inspired endless hatred.
     
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    I can see good, so I listen to different opinions of facts. Haven't watched all of this so I'll watch it now and delete it if it's not helpful.
    I feel we have to know where this war is coming from and who it benefits to know what is going on, although we won't be able to stop it we won't be unaware of its meaning or plan for our lives.

     
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    here's another option to MSM if you're interested. During this video I found out Israel has issued an order for the people of Gaza to get out of harm's way. The only concern I have for that is that Hamas will take more hostages, or just start killing anyone that wants out of there:

     
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    Peace with these in-human murderers Dwight?? Read your history and see if there's ever been true peace with people like Hamas. Let me know if you find anything. The people of Gaza have stood by, just like America is standing by, while our country is housing terrorists. Are we asking for trouble, and even death for ourselves, how about just plain suicide.
     
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    Denise, could all this be the beginning of the end or God's plan? I don't know but it sure hints at it.
    Very confusing since the 3 major religions all have different scenarios. But I am beginning, after further study to think it may be.
    The Jewish Temple preparations of late and now Israel being at the forefront is interesting.
    I've always just studied the Christian end times but last few days I've studied Jews, and it is looking more like this may be more correct, not saying it is but sure made me ill.
    Especially the war at Armageddon.
     
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    Thanks Jake, I know big money is BIG BUSINESS. I watched a video awhile back on "the most wealthy families in the world". I was shocked by some of the poorest countries, 3rd world, have the richest families at the top, and some also in their government/leadership. One was India if I remember right, and the Arabs, filthy rich! I couldn't understand why they have starving people, joblessness, etc. Seems much more money is given to Irans terrorist groups than to their own people. The wickedness is going to be their downfall.
     
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    Who will benefit the most from this war? The Jewish people will if they get their Temple, their Messiah will return and this may be the way it is supposed to be, they are Gods chosen if you are a Bible believer of course if not then I'm sure you disagree.
    The New Millenium will come to pass and the whole world will know God ways and live in peace. This is what the Torah first five books of the Old Testament speak on.
     
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    Only God knows the answers, but I think it has everything to do with the bible, and prophecy. You just can't make that stuff up. I don't know a lot myself but the prophecy, even before Christ, the Messiah, Jesus was born it was prophesied. I remember thinking, oh well Mary and Joseph knew the prophesies so them and all around them decided their baby would be this Saviour of the world in prophecy. I think that is too far-fetched. Even those that didn't believe in the prophesies, actually did believe enough to want Jesus dead, even as a baby, Herrod sent out soldiers to kill every child, I think under 2 years old :(

    This is more for the theological thread, or religious. So I won't go on. I can tell you I've never found anything more convincing to believe in than the God of the Bible.
     
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    The Jewish people, except Messianic Jews, don't believe in Jesus, they believe their Messiah hasn't come yet. They are absolutely God's chosen people, glad you know the Torah and how it all falls into place, how it all started, and then the coming of the Messiah prophecies in Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah. The OT is all about the Messiah coming, and the NT is all about when He came. I think God's plan is for as many people to be saved as possible, He doesn't want one, single sheep to perish. But there are going to be those that will never except Him, it's harder to know that, than it is to believe the Truth of His existence for me anyway.
     
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    And the root of all evil, proven over and over. One of the richest is in India and has a large mansion that he built straight up in the middle of all kinds of poverty around him. Rich aren't held to the same standards as we are. Lots of past horrors come to mind, when you think of some of the crimes, that they get away with and then keep going on committing more. I have many examples, but kind of getting off-topic.

    I think the leaders are going to cause WW3, as it's already written, and there is nothing any of us can do to change it. We just have to do the best we can and hope for the best. I always remind myself; that God is in control and knows what he's doing, even if we don't understand.

    I do feel great sorrow, for all the loss of life in these tragic times and it saddens me greatly, God says his ways aren't our ways, and we won't understand until we are of the spiritual world, then our questions will be answered.
     
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  11. Marie Mallery

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    Denise I was born in a Christian nation so that is all I knew until I started study on the New Testament about 20 years ago but not very intense study.
    After further study and the way things are today I went further into it and now confused.
    If I were born in Israel I would likely believe in the Torah, not the New Testament.
    This brings me to wonder about all the things I thought I knew, at my age it is not a good thing to get into, yet maybe I should?
     
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    I agree Jake, I know the bible says "the love of money is the root of all evil", and that's what I see, greed, power-trips, control, and basically wanting to rule the world. There's a lot of money, including training, arms dealing etc., behind these terrorists. The sad part is, Hamas are human committing in-human acts, unlike what I said about them earlier. It would be a miracle to see them be un-brain-washed (since birth some of them) and maybe some do get out of that sick, satan-pleasing, death to anyone who doesn't bow down to their beliefs.
     
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    True it is more theological now. I should have put it in the religion forum.
     
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    I'll just add one more thing that helps me Marie, if I believe in the God of the bible, and I am wrong about it all, what harm is done. But if I am right, I have a place with Jesus in eternity. We best take this into religious forum now ;) Maybe I can think of something to post ;) Hope you'll join me there, Denise
     
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    It's like a suicide bomber, they're possessed by satin, "I believe". I also believe there is a special place in hell, for those who commit such acts of terror upon others, and God even says something about those who harm his kids. This war between these people has been going on forever it seems, and their no closer to solving it than when they started. "IMO".

    Everyone will answer for what they've done, on judgment day. God said vengeance is mine; so I have to consider my actions sometimes when I get too mad. And sometimes our buttons are really pushed.
     
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