Will The Hamas-israeli War Bring Ww3?

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  1. Denise Evans

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    I'm starting a thread under the Religion Catagory, please come on over Jake. It will take me a few minutes, to make the post ;) I don't want to mess up the wrong thread.

    I already had one, totally forgot about it. Not a lot of interest so no alerts ;)
     
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    First 3 minutes of this video convinced me it would probably teach me exactly what is going on in Gaza war against Israel:

    No bible/religion stuff in this one:

     
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    I have little to say you as you are so close-minded. In-human? Sub-human? Just animals. Let's just exterminate them all. I don't want to talk with again.
     
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    WHAT ARE THE MAIN ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN ISSUES?
    A two-state solution, Israeli settlements, the status of Jerusalem, and refugees are at the core of the dispute.

    Two-state solution - an agreement that would create a state for the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip alongside Israel. Hamas rejects the two-state solution and is sworn to Israel's destruction. Israel has said a Palestinian state must be demilitarised so as not to threaten Israel.

    Settlements - Most countries deem Jewish settlements built on land Israel occupied in 1967 as illegal. Israel disputes this and cites historical and Biblical ties to the land. Their continued expansion is among the most contentious issues between Israel, the Palestinians and the international community.

    Jerusalem - Palestinians want East Jerusalem, which includes sites sacred to Muslims, Jews and Christians, to be the capital of their state. Israel says Jerusalem should remain its "indivisible and eternal" capital. Israel's claim to the eastern part of Jerusalem is not recognised internationally. Trump recognised Jerusalem as Israel's capital – without specifying the extent of its jurisdiction in the disputed city - and moved the U.S. embassy there in 2018.

    Refugees - Today about 5.6 million Palestinian refugees - mainly descendants of those who fled in 1948 - live in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza. About half of registered refugees remain stateless, according to the Palestinian foreign ministry, many living in crowded camps.

    Palestinians have long demanded that refugees should be allowed to return, along with millions of their descendants. Israel says any resettlement of Palestinian refugees must occur outside of its borders.


    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...statehood-land-jerusalem-refugees-2023-10-10/
     
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  5. Denise Evans

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    I'm ok with that Dwight, I feel the same about you.
     
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  6. Marie Mallery

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    The war is what beings in the Millennium and Gods peace on earth, I think?
    All the world will come against Israel in the last war. Hopefully we won't be.
     
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    The Biden Administration has finally decided to try to get U.S. citizens out of Israel. As I understand it, Mexico has evacuated its citizens, Brazil has done so, as has Poland. U.S. hasn't tried until DeSantis in Florida sent a flight to evacuate Florida residents who were visiting Israel and couldn't get out. Biden had to be shamed into action. He has stopped rescue efforts of U.S. hostages as well, but he has shipped weapons on planes and sent two aircraft carriers as well as squadrons of fighters to the region. U.S. citizens are not a priority for this administration. Contrast that with the Trump Administration when Covid shut everything down. Trump moved heaven and earth to get every U.S. citizen home that wished to come home. The difference is dramatic!
     
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    He does do things differently, that's for sure, In the Afghanistan evacuation, he took out the military first, then the Afghans, and Americans last, and left all military equipment and weapons 85 billion worth. Very different strategy he has. :confused: Several flights were sent by other Americans, to try and get Americans out. Blind leading the blind.

    How many are still there in Israel now? I know several have been killed right off.:(
     
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    The American public seems to be at the bottom of his priority list. What will happen to U.S. energy prices when the entire Middle East shuts our imports off? Biden shut down much of American domestic energy production as his first action upon taking office. He also spent down the Strategic Oil Reserve to try to save Democrat Congressional seats in 2022. Some of that oil was sent to China as well to lessen our balance of payments.. Now we may not have the fuel to fly domestic airlines as all our jet fuel will be pulled for the military, not to mention heating oil, diesel, and gasoline.

    The number of Americans in Israel is nebulous, as so many Israelis have duel citizenship, but there are quite a number of pilgrimage groups stranded over there right now. There is at least one large group from Alaska waiting to come home. Fortunately your governor has shamed the President into at least making a token effort to get them home.
     
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    That's right, the 1000 years of peace, then there's more ;)
     
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    He's setting all kinds of records, that I don't know if he's even aware of, all the repercussions we'll have from what he's done. He came out the gate shutting down oil production and selling reserves just like you said. He always tells the press I have to watch what I do or I'll be in trouble, never heard a president say that before.
     
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    How many Americans are trapped in Gaza?

    “And so, that's why we're so actively having conversations with the Israelis and the Egyptians about a safe passage corridor so that people who want to leave can leave.” U.S. officials estimated that 500 to 600 American citizens were in Gaza. For now, there is nothing to do but wait and hope and pray.2 hours ago


    How many US citizens live in Israel?

    The State Department estimates that roughly 500,000 American citizens live in Israel. This comes as U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken vowed American support to Israel on Thursday as its military pulverized the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with airstrikes and prepared for a possible ground invasion.1 day ago

    The level 3 travel advisory is in place for all of Israel, though the city of Gaza remains a Level 4, or "do not travel" zone.6 hours ago

    How are Americans getting out of Israel?

    The Biden administration said they'll begin chartering flights on Friday from Israel to destinations in Europe, as officials scramble to get Americans stranded in the war-ravaged country back home to the US.20 hours ago
     
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    He didn't start chartering flights until Florida did first. Also, as opposed to Ukraine where people are fleeing the war, apparently Israeli citizens are moving into Israel to fulfill their military duties. Like I said, the duel citizenship issue clouds the absolute number of Americans in Israel.
     
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    It's pretty obvious that he's being told by others what to do. IMO Yeah, Desantis, got them moving I guess. I know that Trump's, son-in-law, Jared, has one of those dual citizenships. I'm sure a lot of folks do.
     
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    and the ulterior motive, it's an election year so is this showing America as a good alli or just a money-hungry, control-hungry, self-centered administration. I know the answer so didn't make it a question. I know obama has his dirty hands in all of this as well.
     
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