Will The Hamas-israeli War Bring Ww3?

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Marie Mallery, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2015
    Messages:
    6,870
    Likes Received:
    8,622
    I'm starting a thread under the Religion Catagory, please come on over Jake. It will take me a few minutes, to make the post ;) I don't want to mess up the wrong thread.

    I already had one, totally forgot about it. Not a lot of interest so no alerts ;)
     
    #121
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2023
    Jake Smith likes this.
  2. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2015
    Messages:
    6,870
    Likes Received:
    8,622
    First 3 minutes of this video convinced me it would probably teach me exactly what is going on in Gaza war against Israel:

    No bible/religion stuff in this one:

     
    #122
    Jake Smith likes this.
  3. Dwight Ward

    Dwight Ward Veteran Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2020
    Messages:
    3,714
    Likes Received:
    4,670
    I have little to say you as you are so close-minded. In-human? Sub-human? Just animals. Let's just exterminate them all. I don't want to talk with again.
     
    #123
  4. Jake Smith

    Jake Smith Very Well-Known Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2022
    Messages:
    2,288
    Likes Received:
    4,256
    WHAT ARE THE MAIN ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN ISSUES?
    A two-state solution, Israeli settlements, the status of Jerusalem, and refugees are at the core of the dispute.

    Two-state solution - an agreement that would create a state for the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip alongside Israel. Hamas rejects the two-state solution and is sworn to Israel's destruction. Israel has said a Palestinian state must be demilitarised so as not to threaten Israel.

    Settlements - Most countries deem Jewish settlements built on land Israel occupied in 1967 as illegal. Israel disputes this and cites historical and Biblical ties to the land. Their continued expansion is among the most contentious issues between Israel, the Palestinians and the international community.

    Jerusalem - Palestinians want East Jerusalem, which includes sites sacred to Muslims, Jews and Christians, to be the capital of their state. Israel says Jerusalem should remain its "indivisible and eternal" capital. Israel's claim to the eastern part of Jerusalem is not recognised internationally. Trump recognised Jerusalem as Israel's capital – without specifying the extent of its jurisdiction in the disputed city - and moved the U.S. embassy there in 2018.

    Refugees - Today about 5.6 million Palestinian refugees - mainly descendants of those who fled in 1948 - live in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza. About half of registered refugees remain stateless, according to the Palestinian foreign ministry, many living in crowded camps.

    Palestinians have long demanded that refugees should be allowed to return, along with millions of their descendants. Israel says any resettlement of Palestinian refugees must occur outside of its borders.


    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...statehood-land-jerusalem-refugees-2023-10-10/
     
    #124
    Denise Evans likes this.
  5. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2015
    Messages:
    6,870
    Likes Received:
    8,622
    I'm ok with that Dwight, I feel the same about you.
     
    #125
    Teresa Levitt likes this.
  6. Marie Mallery

    Marie Mallery Veteran Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2021
    Messages:
    11,545
    Likes Received:
    10,994
    The war is what beings in the Millennium and Gods peace on earth, I think?
    All the world will come against Israel in the last war. Hopefully we won't be.
     
    #126
    Denise Evans likes this.
  7. Don Alaska

    Don Alaska Supreme Member
    Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2018
    Messages:
    12,718
    Likes Received:
    23,824
    The Biden Administration has finally decided to try to get U.S. citizens out of Israel. As I understand it, Mexico has evacuated its citizens, Brazil has done so, as has Poland. U.S. hasn't tried until DeSantis in Florida sent a flight to evacuate Florida residents who were visiting Israel and couldn't get out. Biden had to be shamed into action. He has stopped rescue efforts of U.S. hostages as well, but he has shipped weapons on planes and sent two aircraft carriers as well as squadrons of fighters to the region. U.S. citizens are not a priority for this administration. Contrast that with the Trump Administration when Covid shut everything down. Trump moved heaven and earth to get every U.S. citizen home that wished to come home. The difference is dramatic!
     
    #127
    Denise Evans and Jake Smith like this.
  8. Jake Smith

    Jake Smith Very Well-Known Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2022
    Messages:
    2,288
    Likes Received:
    4,256

    He does do things differently, that's for sure, In the Afghanistan evacuation, he took out the military first, then the Afghans, and Americans last, and left all military equipment and weapons 85 billion worth. Very different strategy he has. :confused: Several flights were sent by other Americans, to try and get Americans out. Blind leading the blind.

    How many are still there in Israel now? I know several have been killed right off.:(
     
    #128
    Denise Evans and Don Alaska like this.
  9. Don Alaska

    Don Alaska Supreme Member
    Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2018
    Messages:
    12,718
    Likes Received:
    23,824
    The American public seems to be at the bottom of his priority list. What will happen to U.S. energy prices when the entire Middle East shuts our imports off? Biden shut down much of American domestic energy production as his first action upon taking office. He also spent down the Strategic Oil Reserve to try to save Democrat Congressional seats in 2022. Some of that oil was sent to China as well to lessen our balance of payments.. Now we may not have the fuel to fly domestic airlines as all our jet fuel will be pulled for the military, not to mention heating oil, diesel, and gasoline.

    The number of Americans in Israel is nebulous, as so many Israelis have duel citizenship, but there are quite a number of pilgrimage groups stranded over there right now. There is at least one large group from Alaska waiting to come home. Fortunately your governor has shamed the President into at least making a token effort to get them home.
     
    #129
    Denise Evans and Jake Smith like this.
  10. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2015
    Messages:
    6,870
    Likes Received:
    8,622
    That's right, the 1000 years of peace, then there's more ;)
     
    #130
    Jake Smith and Marie Mallery like this.
  11. Jake Smith

    Jake Smith Very Well-Known Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2022
    Messages:
    2,288
    Likes Received:
    4,256

    He's setting all kinds of records, that I don't know if he's even aware of, all the repercussions we'll have from what he's done. He came out the gate shutting down oil production and selling reserves just like you said. He always tells the press I have to watch what I do or I'll be in trouble, never heard a president say that before.
     
    #131
    Denise Evans and Don Alaska like this.
  12. Jake Smith

    Jake Smith Very Well-Known Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2022
    Messages:
    2,288
    Likes Received:
    4,256
    How many Americans are trapped in Gaza?

    “And so, that's why we're so actively having conversations with the Israelis and the Egyptians about a safe passage corridor so that people who want to leave can leave.” U.S. officials estimated that 500 to 600 American citizens were in Gaza. For now, there is nothing to do but wait and hope and pray.2 hours ago


    How many US citizens live in Israel?

    The State Department estimates that roughly 500,000 American citizens live in Israel. This comes as U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken vowed American support to Israel on Thursday as its military pulverized the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with airstrikes and prepared for a possible ground invasion.1 day ago

    The level 3 travel advisory is in place for all of Israel, though the city of Gaza remains a Level 4, or "do not travel" zone.6 hours ago

    How are Americans getting out of Israel?

    The Biden administration said they'll begin chartering flights on Friday from Israel to destinations in Europe, as officials scramble to get Americans stranded in the war-ravaged country back home to the US.20 hours ago
     
    #132
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2023
    Denise Evans and Don Alaska like this.
  13. Don Alaska

    Don Alaska Supreme Member
    Task Force Registered

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2018
    Messages:
    12,718
    Likes Received:
    23,824
    He didn't start chartering flights until Florida did first. Also, as opposed to Ukraine where people are fleeing the war, apparently Israeli citizens are moving into Israel to fulfill their military duties. Like I said, the duel citizenship issue clouds the absolute number of Americans in Israel.
     
    #133
  14. Jake Smith

    Jake Smith Very Well-Known Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2022
    Messages:
    2,288
    Likes Received:
    4,256

    It's pretty obvious that he's being told by others what to do. IMO Yeah, Desantis, got them moving I guess. I know that Trump's, son-in-law, Jared, has one of those dual citizenships. I'm sure a lot of folks do.
     
    #134
    Don Alaska and Denise Evans like this.
  15. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
    Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2015
    Messages:
    6,870
    Likes Received:
    8,622
    and the ulterior motive, it's an election year so is this showing America as a good alli or just a money-hungry, control-hungry, self-centered administration. I know the answer so didn't make it a question. I know obama has his dirty hands in all of this as well.
     
    #135
    Don Alaska likes this.

Share This Page