Will The Hamas-israeli War Bring Ww3?

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  1. Denise Evans

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    DeSantis has done a lot of righteous things, I still having dove into why so many stopped liking him, or even why Trump started attacking him. Oh well, that's our Trump, he's still accomplished more good things than any other President in the last 70 years!
     
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    I have not heard about DeSantis doing anything to bring people home, maybe someone can post info on him doing that ?
    The person who I have been reading about that is helping to bring home our Americans is Rep. Cory Mills, an American veteran from Florida, who is rescuing Americans and bringing them back home safely.
    Biden , after being shown up by people like Cory Mills, has now said that the US government will also bring people back to the US, after they have signed paperwork and agree to be responsible for all costs of bringing them back home.



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    Well, that's me "assuming" again, because it said Florida was helping so I though DeSantis. He has done a lot of good things. I think most of the flack about him was from MAGA which I am not one of, I just will vote for whoever I feel is best. I do believe Trump is the best President we ever had, and I would be glad to have him back in our Whitehouse :)
     
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    Don, said Florida, and I just assumed he was talking about Desantis, him being our gov. Sorry. :)

    I did see Cory Mills talking about it a few days ago.

    1 day ago — DeSantis launches his own Israel flights to bring stranded Jewish Floridians back to US and slams Biden administration for its slow response

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...slams-Biden-administration-slow-response.html

    DeSantis signed an executive order today to launch the effort, which he says is to benefit the '20,000' American citizens who remain in Israel as the conflict rages on

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...r-flights-florida-residents-israel-war-hamas/
     
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    I'm going to follow cory mills now on X as he is a real hero!! Thanks @Yvonne Smith
     
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    Trump helped him win gov. of Fl., by endorsing him, and then got mad because Desantis running against him, for president.
     
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    Yes, Trump can act like a over-grown child at times. I don't care for that about him, but I can overlook it for the good he's done ;) Thanks Jake, I seem to remember something about that now you mentioned it ;)
     
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    I agree with this so much, @Dwight Ward . There are innocent people on both sides of this war, and of every war. People who just want to raise their families, live a quiet life, and worship God in their own ways.
    To attack innocent people is just as wrong for one side as it is for the other. The military who are fighting in the wars are there knowing their life is at stake, and they are the ones doing the killing, and should definitely be retaliated against, especially after attacking innocent people in Israel.

    But killing the people living in Gaza just because they are there , and are unable to escape, is a horrible thing to do, and not better than what Hamas did.
    This is NOT how Jesus wants his followers to live or to believe, in my opinion..
     
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    I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and suggest that the neither side in this fight are concerned about what Jesus wants....
     
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    Just to be clear on this that was quoted wrong, This is the first of my comment:

    "Innocent people are always killed in wars, I guess you think Israel should stand down and be trampled on?" Denise Evans quote.

    It matters to me that I'm being accused of not having compassion for the murder of innocents which is not at all what I said. And as far as good guys and bad guys, it's good against evil that we battle in this world. War is horrific, but as I stated, what would you do, stand down and be trampled? Iran, as well as other countries want to annihilate Israel, not just win their land. They want to wipe them off the face of the Earth, and they won't stop with Israel, they hate all Infidels.

    God is in control of all of this but I don't stand with anyone who is against the people of Israel. No, natanyahu may not be right in his leadership, in fact good sources are saying he won't be able to remain in his position when this is over. Eventually good and final judgement will come down on every one of us. This attack was the most horrific thing, and some people don't even believe it like Israel made it up and Israel is to blame. People are chanting "gas the jews". I wouldn't be in their shoes come judgement day.
     
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    Oh you can believe the Jewish people, and Messianic Jews are concerned about what God wants, maybe not Natany.. oh hell I can't spell his name anymore, I would have hoped the retaliation would be planned out much better. Given people more time to get out of Gaza, and figure out a rescue plan for the hostages, if they're even still alive.

    I'll guarantee Hamas and those that hate Israel don't give a damn about Jesus, God or how many people die. That should be obvious by now. Look at the nuts that want to be suicide bombers. I think they are the ones that think there are 10 virgins awaiting them in some sort of paradise, what a rude awakening that will be.

    It's disgusting to me to see people take the side of terrorists like these that don't want peace at all, they live only to kill others, they've been raised to hate. I pity them yes, but I wouldn't stand down and allow them to go on killing. I'm sure you all know about another group, I think it was ISIS maybe, dug in underneath a hospital and used it as a shield to protect themselves. Israel didn't come against them, they couldn't put those lives at stake. Israel only wanted peace and to have their land.

    Anyway, I can rest in the knowledge that God is going to take care of this one day, until then, we have to live, and survive, or not in this fallen world.
     
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    What's so sad, is the loss of life, of innocent people; who never had a chance to live at all. and senseless killings, rapes, and beheadings, burnings of people who have nothing to do with the agendas of any of these people. It's things that can't be unseen. Sacrifice is what happened to , those innocent people, for evil agendas. I try to think there's a reason, but to me, there isn't a reason.

    Seems everyone wants to blame someone else these days, for what makes no sense at all. It's funny how we all keep looking for that one person, to make sense of it all, and they have never shown up. Don't think they will, it's a myth, something we dream up in our own mind. Scary, is what we all face in the future, whether we like it or not. Venting is what I'm doing while observing others' opinions.

    I stayed on this thread all day, and don't think I changed anything. :rolleyes: IMO.
     
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    I agree with all this, Yvonne. This no Holy War. I make comments sometimes as if I know things that others don't or am some kind of moral judge. I know better than that about myself. Jesus taught forgiveness even of people who hate or harm you. This is a hard road that everyone in Israel and Gaza should try to travel.
    The number of Palestinians killed has passed the number of Israelis killed. I wonder how many Palestinians will have to die before the Israelis are satisfied with their revenge.
    In some countries in Europe anti-semitism is a crime as is support for Palestinians. No one has yet been arrested for anti-Palestinianism.
    My Savior is a tough boss. I'm not sure I would have joined up if I had known He was such a hard-ass.

    John 13:34
    A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
     

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    The Eve Of Destruction

    The Eastern world, it is explodin'
    Violence flarin', bullets loadin'

    You're old enough to kill, but not for votin'
    You don't believe in war, but what's that gun you're totin'?
    And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin'

    But you tell me over and over and over again, my friend
    Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction

    Don't you understand what I'm tryin' to say?
    And can't you feel the fears I'm feelin' today?
    If the button is pushed, there's no runnin' away
    There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave

    Take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy

    And you tell me over and over and over again, my friend
    Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction


    Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin'
    I'm sittin' here just contemplatin'
    I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation
    Handful of senators don't pass legislation
    And marches alone can't bring integration
    When human respect is disintegratin'
    This whole crazy world is just too frustratin'

    And you tell me over and over and over again, my friend
    Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction

    Think of all the hate there is in Red China
    Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
    Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space
    But when you return, it's the same old place

    The poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace
    You can bury your dead
    , but don't leave a trace
    Hate your next-door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace

    And tell me over and over and over and over again, my friend
    You don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
    No, no, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction
     

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