How You Can Tell We Have Too Many Deer

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  1. Thomas Windom

    Thomas Windom Very Well-Known Member
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    I opened the front door and this is what I saw. Went back and got my iPhone to take a pic.

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  2. Julia Curtis

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    Awwww now that is so sweet.:)
     
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    Walking on the trial we just saw a deer. Tried not to frighten it because the last one Jake had to put it out of its misery, then skin it and clean it. Jake said I scared it and made it jump over fence and break her neck, Anyway the dogs had deer meat for a few weeks, and they loved it.
    This one It made over the 6" fence ok though, so all's fine.
    Speaking of deer, bless their hearts they are running out of habitat.
     
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  4. Julia Curtis

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    Humans are needing places to live so you're right,were taking their homes.
     
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  5. Marie Mallery

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    Too much breeding, not enough marrying. If a man had to feed his offspring, he would be more careful. Women need to be more particular.
    Sometimes its cruel to be kind, no welfare unless somebody is truly disabled. A hand up is charity and kind but a handout is cruel.
     
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    I respect your opinion Marie:)
     
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    We all have one. Thank you, Julia.
     
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    The no-consequence sex is an product of the "liberation" of women with regard to sexual practices. It has led to the large number of single-parent households and a rise in the poverty numbers.

    Don't yell at me:eek:
     
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  9. Marie Mallery

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    They literally threw the baby out with the bathwater alright. Free sex wasn't so free after all. Look at their offspring and nation.
    I was busy trying to be a housewife and mother married to a hopeless romantic ,while I was having babies so was his hippy chicks ,I had 3 he had 7 during our 'marriage'. Mama told me I was jumping from frying pan into the fire when she caught me eloping, Boy was that an understatement.
    But it gave me the capability to survive most of what life threw at us.
    But I also had some good times during the 70s too. Sure, wasn't easy to fool anymore.
     
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  10. Lambert Regenlöf

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    Some people today, raised in the Welfare Age (meaning the current definition of "welfare" as financial or other material aid from the government rather than the Constitutional sense of liberty and opportunity for citizens to develop their health, prosperity and happiness, unimpeded by external restrictions) think, "But the government has to help these poor people! Otherwise, who would?"

    I think that's called historical illiteracy. Not knowing the history of your nation, culture, community. I remember, when a child, churches, neighbors, even schools, and in our case my father's employer, all got involved to some degree, to cheer up, visit, donate to someone with a critical disease or injury.

    Back then, as everyone knows (!?), neighbors were more neighborly - television was still finding its place at the family altar, schools still welcomed parents to visit their children's classes and hold leadership roles in the PTA, smartphones and other Borg implants were still lurking in the future.

    Undoubtedly, this could not have been the case everywhere. We were fortunate that it was the unquestioned norm in the various cities where we lived, as it is unfortunate that today it is government redirection of diluted tax revenues that is unquestioned.

    Good heavens, the codes! I had an ailment for which Lord Government, in his mercy, had no code! So the doc used a cide yhat described a condition more "close" to mine, than the code in the other direction. In other words, code numbers do not reflect health conditions better than verbal descriptions do, in fact they are worse, being misleading.

    At a given time, a person puts more weight on quantification and coding than on quality and clarity: Code, or verbal description. Salary, or long-term job satisfaction and contribution. Number of welfare recipients, or quality of welfare. Number of immigrants, or quality of same. Number of voters and votes, or quality of 'votee'. Acres of lands "stolen" (ceded), or quality of usage of land and resources. Ad infinitum.
     
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  11. Marie Mallery

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    Lambert, I'll have to go back to school to understand this post.:confused:o_O Maybe I'm just tired?
    Where are you from?
     
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  12. John Brunner

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    Humans are not taking habitat away from deer...we're increasing it. Deer are edge-dwelling creatures. The more that subdivisions carve up the woods, the more habitat we create. take a look at the website for your state's game management agency. I bet it's full of methods that are being implemented to keep the growing population in check, not to help it maintain stasis.

    The same applies to bear. They are not in your garbage for lack of options. They are seeking the easiest tastiest meal.
     
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    To an extent, at least, that's true. Deers need the edges of the forests, or clearings in the forests, to find food because the food they can reach doesn't grow in dense forests. Mostly, they eat the foliage from saplings, and often the whole sapling, as well as other plants that grow in cleared areas. That's where city-dwelling environmentalists are so off when discussing virgin forests. There is very little food in a virgin forest because the tree canopy doesn't let enough light through. Loggers thinning out the forests have done far more for wildlife than these would-be environmentalists.

    However, they also need the forests as a place to find refuge, and, in northern areas, they need dense canopies (like cedar swamps) to provide areas where the snow isn't too deep for them to walk about during the winter. Ideally, these areas are near some small cleared areas where they can also find food.

    Over-hunting and over-development can decimate wildlife. In the Eastern part of the United States, we had nearly eliminated several species of animals through over-development and the lack of controls over hunting or otherwise killing wildlife by the early 1900s. When I read memoirs and stories from the early 1900s, they often mention that there used to be bears in the forests but that they were mostly gone, and that there used to be a lot of deer but there weren't very many anymore. Game animals were over-hunted and any animal that anyone considered to be a pest was targeted for elimination while, at the same time, forests were being made into towns and farmland, while towns were growing into expanding cities.

    Today, there's no shortage of deer, black bears, moose, or other forms of wildlife, although some have migrated due to climate fluctuations.
     
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    The law made it more 'profitable' to have more kids out of wedlock. Those on welfare got paid more the more kids they had. I remember a friend of my middle daughter. This girl lived in low income housing. I was encouraging her to do well in school, get a good job, save her money, maybe get married and have a family. Her mother encouraged her to have a baby with her boyfriend.
    ?????
    Oh, and we have lots of deer here. Apparently the DNR counts them. Not sure how. We have an awful lot of them living in Dave's subdivision.
     
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    I have posted here before that I have had women tell me they were trying to get pregnant unattached in order to get Medicaid and food stamps/SNAP.
     
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