Will The Hamas-israeli War Bring Ww3?

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  1. Denise Evans

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    Thought someone might want to see this article from AllIsrael.com on the hospital bombing in Gaza. No link because you need to put your email in to be subscribed. Still, I for one like to hear from both sides which are very unequal as far as the News we can too easily get on our boob-tubes:

    So here's the transcript only. If you are interested you can "other" information and decide which is misinformation for yourself, by subscribing, they'll send all the News to your email address:

    here's also a video that made it to Youtube, for now anyway, that you can hear a Conversation between Hamas operatives about failed rocket launch on the hospital, Oct. 17, 2023,

    Joel C. Rosenberg | Published: October 18, 2023
    JERUSALEM, ISRAEL – Starting yesterday, every major news organization in the world has broadcast TV and radio reports and published front-page headlines accusing Israel of committing “war crimes” by bombing the Al-Ma’amadani Hospital in Gaza.

    There is just one problem with that narrative.

    It isn’t true.

    In fact, it’s a total lie, perpetrated by the Hamas propaganda machine, despite the fact that a phone call between Hamas operatives – intercepted by the IDF – proves the terrorist leadership knew that it wasn’t Israel’s fault.

    But the mainstream media bought it hook, line and sinker.

    Without doubting Hamas’ words for a moment, most of the media ran with the terrorist 'spin' that Israel was the guilty party.

    It is true that the hospital was hit by rocket fire last night – and tragically, many died and even more were injured.

    But it wasn’t an Israeli missile that hit the hospital.

    It was a malfunctioning rocket fired by a terrorist organization in Gaza known as the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, or “PIJ.”

    This morning, the Israel Defense Forces released incontrovertible proof showing that PIJ – not Israel – was responsible for the explosion.

    Video from security cameras from a nearby building in Gaza clearly shows a salvo of rockets being fired at Israel and that at least one of the rockets malfunctioned and fell on the parking lot of the hospital, causing several vehicles to explode and catch on fire.

    The IDF played audio recordings for reporters so they could listen to Hamas terrorists discussing that it was a PIJ rocket – not Israel – that caused the devastating destruction at the hospital, as you will see in the transcript below.

    The IDF also released images showing the hospital before and after the explosion, revealing the lack of an impact crater that would have been created by the bombs Israel uses for attacking terror sites in Gaza.

    “An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit,” says IDF Spokesman Brig.-Gen. Daniel Hagari.

    “And intelligence from multiple sources we have in our possession indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch that hit the hospital in Gaza,” he continued.

    In addition, the Hamas-controlled Gaza Ministry of Health initially claimed that over 500 people had been killed in the explosion at the hospital.

    Later that figure was reduced to between 200 and 300 people killed.

    Several open-source intelligence (OSINT) groups on X (formerly Twitter) also geolocated buildings seen in several videos of the blast, demonstrating that the hospital was under the flight path of the barrage of PIJ rockets seen in videos at the time of the explosion.

    This is far from the first time Palestinian rockets aimed at Israel have misfired and actually fallen on Palestinian civilians living in northern Gaza, causing deaths and injuries.

    “The terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip shoot indiscriminately at Israel, endangering and harming the residents of the Gaza Strip as well,” the IDF noted in a statement.

    “Since the beginning of the war, approximately 450 rockets have been launched by the terrorist organizations that fell in the Gaza Strip.”

    Israel announced this morning that it had transferred all the intel relating to the blast in its possession to the United States for evaluation.

    “So the whole world knows: The barbaric terrorists in Gaza are the ones who attacked the Gaza hospital, not the IDF,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated categorically.

    “Those who cruelly murdered our children murder their children as well," Netanyahu added.

    Israeli President Isaac Herzog condemned the media for being quick to publish the lies of Hamas.

    “Shame on the media who swallow the lies of Hamas and Islamic Jihad — broadcasting a 21st-century blood libel around the globe. Shame on the vile terrorists in Gaza who willfully spill the blood of the innocent,” Herzog wrote on X.

    “An Islamic Jihad missile has killed many Palestinians at a Gazan hospital – a place where lives should be saved,” he wrote.

    “Shame on the vile terrorists in Gaza who willfully spill the blood of the innocent. Never before has the choice been clearer. Israel is standing against an enemy made of pure evil. If you stand for humanity – for the value of human life – you stand with Israel.”
     
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  2. Don Alaska

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    No, it isn't true that we have to keep the same administration if we are at war. We have never changed presidents during a major war though. Impeachment has never been a political tool before either though, so America is changing from what it once was. Harris is already openly talking about "taking over the Presidency".
     
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    The U.S. embassy in Beirut has now been set afire, and western embassies around the Middle East and in Argentina have come under attack. Now that the light of day has come to the hospital, it is still standing and most of the damage appears to be in the parking lot, so the Israeli story seems to be the true one. If the IDF had attacked the hospital, it would have been flattened, and it seems the casualty figures are WAY inflated. Biden going to the area now will make it appear that the U.S. agrees with whatever Israel is doing and that will tie the two nations actions together. Iran has played it well, and we are on the losing side of this event for sure. Russia is laughing I am sure, as we are now going to be distracted from anything happening in Eastern Europe. Perhaps another 9-11 attack may be on the horizon and Iran is already calling for 1970s-style oil embargoes. Anybody remember when gas was $.29 a gallon? Maybe $29 a gallon is in our future.
     
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  4. Ed Wilson

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    Truth is the first casualty of war.
     
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    Gas prices here in Central Florida have actually dropped a dime or so in the last 10 days. And personally I won't let the price of gas determine who I support in this conflict.
     
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  6. Don Alaska

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    Biden has reduced sanctions on Venezuela recently to try to temper the rise in prices. That has led to a temporary drop in prices.
     
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    *Deleted* Could not find supporting source data.
     
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    ???????
     
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    Ya know, every time the U.S. has given ANY kind of humanitarian aid to a nation at war, the money and / or the products we send get stolen by the prevailing powers that be and used to feed and arm the direct enemies of our own nation.

    Sometimes, the nation doesn’t even have to be at war but just needs some disaster relief like Puerto Rico did a few years ago. After all the hoopla about how Trump didn’t help them out, they found conex after conex filled with rotting and outdated food that didn’t go to the public but instead, sat hidden from them all over a political agenda.

    So, after knowing the history of what happens to money and products that go to other countries for humanitarian relief, Joe Biden hands the Palestinians 100 million bucks.
    I think I just might call Vegas to find out what the odds are that the money will go to help feed Hamas and help ‘em arm up against Israel.

    Derned President is shaking Netanyahu’s hand whilst trying to pacify American jihadist anti-semites at the same time.
     
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  11. John Brunner

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    No, I hastily reposted statements that Biden was giving a news conference on Israel, making various irrational, refutable claims. Thee was no backup, and I removed my post when subsequent comments [erroneously] refuted the claim. (I try to not knee-jerk pass on B.S.) Well, it turns out the initial claims were true, so here goes:

    We learn, from Biden's own words, that he was there with Golda Meir during the kick-off of the Six-Day War. In her office. He could see into her eyes.

    The problem is the 6-Day War was in 1967. While Biden was still in college. Biden was elected to the Senate for the first time in 1973.

    Golda Mier was the fourth prime minister of Israel from 1969 to 1974. She was Foreign Minister between 1956–1966. Didn't become PM until 1969. She was not in office during the 6- Day War.


     
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  12. Denise Evans

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    Thank you for this Don, I appreciate your updates so much, Denise
     
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  13. Don Alaska

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    I try @Denise Evans . Many are frightened or just don't think the danger is real, and to them I just assume they will ignore these things so they can sleep better. I just think forewarned is forearmed, and it is better to be aware than not.
     
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  14. Don Alaska

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    He has been lying his entire political career. The people of Delaware never seemed to care what he said. On the national and world stage, however, he appears foolish.
     
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  15. Don Alaska

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    But Biden said he would be really mad if Hamas stole the money and goods. I am certain that will make it all better and scare them a lot.
     
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