Grocery Shopping Tip -- Milk

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  1. Jan Ahlmann

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    If you buy milk and it goes bad before you use it all, look at organic milk. For some reason, it lasts a heck of a lot longer than non-organic. I just bought a gallon and it is good to February 8th and it really will last that lone. Yes, it's more expensive, so you have to decide if it's worth it for you. I also find the taste is a lot better and more consistently good.
     
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    Sorry, absolutely nothing organic for us! Nothing.
     
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    What happened to the “we support ranchers” declarations you have been making for the last five years , @Cody Fousnaugh ? Tell that to your ranching forum and see what they say……


    I am all for organic, and buy it when I can; but even regular milk (and every other food) is sky-high now, with the Biden economy.
    I think that the standards are higher for organic milk, as well as the ranchers that provide organic milk are more careful of unwanted bacteria when milking the cows.
    Plus…. A vey BIG plus……the grass fed cows are so much healthier, that the milk has got to be a lot better tasting, too.

    I was buying the organic A2 milk, but since i do not use a lot, I stopped buying it . It was over $6 for a half gallon, and plain walmart milk is about $3 for a whole gallon.
    Plus, Walmart does not even carry the A2 milk, although they do have some other organic milk.

    Now that we have more food benefits from the Devoted Health insurance, I am going to re-think buying organic again.
    Thanks for the tip, @Jan Ahlmann !
     
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    The process that gives the milk a longer shelf life is called ultrahigh temperature (UHT) processing or treatment, in which milk is heated to 280 degrees Fahrenheit (138 degrees Celsius) for two to four seconds, killing any bacteria in it.

    I read that this longer process is used for organic milk because it often has to travel further to point of sale. However, I’ve also seen the term “ultra pasteurized” on milk that isn’t organic as well.


    I’m not saying you should but just wondering why you dislike organic products, Cody.
     
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    Support farmers and ranchers? We simply drink/eat regular of everything. Milk (dairies), Prime Rib (farming/ranching) and other foods that come from both. Just don't like organic, so we don't buy it.
     
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    I seldom pay the premium for organic. My husband is a milk drinker so we go through at least a gallon a week; having milk go bad is not a thing in this house. :D

    My nephew is a farmer in S. GA and has contracts for organic produce (no dairy). He says it's a giant PITA with all the regulations but apparently it is more lucrative.
     
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    A2 cows milk? I didn't know that existed @Yvonne Smith. I wonder how it is made. As far as I knew, cows were A1 and goats and sheep were A2. If it is GMO, supposedly it can't carry the organic label.
     
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    It is in one of the threads here somewhere, @John Brunner; but the gist of it is that at some point, in Europe, something happened and instead of producing the good A2 milk, some cows started producing the A1 milk which is not as good for people. So it is actually the A1 milk which could maybe be called GMO, although it apparently happened naturally.

    The main cow that is used in most dairies is the Holstein, which produces the most milk, and it is all A1 milk.
    Some cows still produce A2, like Jerseys and Guernsey, and the small Dexter cows, among others. Since they are only small dairies, and would be also grass fed and organic, the A2 milk is very expensive and hard to come by at most stores.
    I think i went to Whole Foods for mine.
     
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    Interesting.... I had no idea. A1 is said by some to be at the root of Type 1 diabetes.
     
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    Here is what Dr. Gundry says in his Longevity book about A1 and A2 milk, and he said that it does affect insulin, so there could be some connection between the milk and diabetes. He explains how that works.
    We already knew that milk has an opioid reaction , which is so that babies will want to nurse properly, but also causes milk product addiction.

    Ice cream is probably the worst, because both the milk and the sugar are addictive….. one bite of ice cream, and I want to live on nothing else for the rest of my life…… I have to be really careful about having any.


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    Exactly what I had read from a different source. My source said that a damaged gut endothelium--either congenital or acquired--could lead to a leaky gut, which in turn would cause an autoimmune attack on the beta cells in the pancreas, and create the inability to secrete insulin. Type 1 diabetes has long been known as an autoimmune disease, but there is another trigger or perhaps two that make the disease present. My source stated that type 1 diabetes only occurs in cultures that drink or use cows milk. It doesn't happen in cultures that use goat/sheep/yak milk, so the link was made but kept secret to prevent the dairy industry from collapsing.
     
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    I've purchased some of the non-refrigerated shelf stable milk to have on hand for emergencies, but I've not tried it yet. I only put milk on cereal, and use it in cooking. I never liked milk, even when I was a kid.

    The only exception is when I visited a dairy in New Jersey in the late 60s, and they had fresh milk that was ice cold. It's the only milk I really enjoyed without putting chocolate drink mix into it.
     
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    If you visit a dairy, especially a Jersey dairy farm, your opinion may be changed. Higher butterfat makes the milk sweeter and gives it a much better taste. We keep some shelf-stable milk around too. It is a habit we developed while living in the bush when you never knew when milk would be available. It is okay, especially in cooking and baking.
     
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    I was shocked to see my dollar stores carry it.
     
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