Nanny State

What is this world coming to When a parent is being threatened by police for walking their children home from school.
https://www.intellihub.com/parents-...hreatened-parents-arrest-walking-home-school/
https://www.intellihub.com/parents-...hreatened-parents-arrest-walking-home-school/
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/08/texas-school-bans-parents-walking-kids-home

 

Geeez. Yep, you can always find some morons who want to throw their weight around- and they will, if they're allowed to get away with it.

One of the dopiest examples I encountered: the first high school I attended (covered grades 7-12) had what might be called a closed-campus policy.
Staff needed to know how each student was getting to and from school, and no one was allowed off the school property without either a note from a parent or permission from a staff member.
To be straightforward about it, the principal was a moron- and a bully. It's beyond me how/why he wasn't removed from his position.
Anyway- two students, a brother & sister (grades 9 & 7) were harassed by this guy, and their parents brought into it, because the students went home for lunch.
Here's the really dopey part: their home was next door to the school, and all that separated the school property from theirs was a small driveway, yet the students weren't allowed to 'leave school property to go home for lunch.'

While I can see around the news that it's getting weirder and worse (like the examples from your links), this occurred around 1972.

 

There is a lot going on with "govenment authorities" changing laws so they can have control of our children. Many of these changes have been made in the Child Welfare System so that this system actually has more authority over children now than the parents of those children have. It might not bother us so much since the majority of us aren't raising children anymore. But if you are a grandparent you might want to take a closer look at what is happening here. It's something that has been going on for quite a while too....the tearing down of our Constitutional Rights and Freedoms in every area of our lives.

https://www.facebook.com/bringthestanleykidshome/info/?tab=page_info

This is one family that was torn apart that I took a stand for....

 

That's exactly what I've been thinking for a long time... it's like they're trying to phase out parents so parents are essentially obsolete. They don't want parents to be involved in their own kids' lives, and they don't want parents to have the authority.
I'm not an expert at history, but it seems it started when 'They' started trying to con parents into believing parents do not have what it takes to 'socialize' their young children or provide 'early childhood education.'
And when public schools now have everything from social workers to security guards, it should show those 'experiments' did not work.

 

I agree. And it is also on the Agenda of the United Nations for the whole World's children...it is disguised as wanting the best for our children. When I can find the exact agenda item I will post the link here.

 

This isn't what you're referring to, is it?:
http://unchildrights.blogspot.com/2009/03/summary-childrens-rights-convention.html

 

It seems to be the one I'm talking about for sure...only with someone trying to tell us they aren't trying to take over our children and grandchildren.

 

Well, in my opinion, the whole thing reeks of Communism.
And bad sci-fi that's become a reality.

 

How many times do you hear the phrase, "It takes a village to raise a child"? and of course it's helpful for parents to have extended family and friends who can pitch in at times, but it takes parents (or substitutes, if needed) to raise a child. The government has been trying to usurp parental roles and control over their children for quite a while now, as far as I'm concerned. It seems the more something is repeated these days, the more brainwashed 'followers' become, and start to believe it. I do think we need to have some laws to protect children. I've seen severe cases of abuse and/or neglect, and ideally those children should have been removed before that happened, but despite how stringent the rules are, they still seem to be able to work around the system and get their children back (or have others they subsequently abuse/neglect.) And, I've also seen good parents harassed and families disrupted by those same laws.

 

I wanted to make sure I was right about who I first heard say: "It takes a village to raise a child." And I was...it was Hillary Clinton who I first heard make that statement. And she wrote a book about this titled "It Takes a Vilage"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Takes_a_Village



No, it doesn't take a village...it takes a Family to raise a child. I was really happy to see that the link I posted shows many don't agree with Hillary about it taking a village. And in writing that book she has exposed her Agenda for our children...which is let the Govenment have control of them and not their parents. I wonder if she still feels that way now that she is a grandmother?

 

@Babs Hunt Yes, I thought it was her, and we know her agenda. We (in this forum) have all been around the block a time or two and seen things, and know what's up more than many these days, and it's scary how that movement has taken over and been accepted. I actually planned to work in the school system, but I just couldn't do it after sitting in on some of the meetings and seeing how things worked. I would not put a child in public school these days, because they are leftist indoctrination camps.

I posted about it elsewhere, I believe in the Reading thread, but I highly recommend reading Days of Rage by Bryan Burrough. It's about the leftist groups around during the 60s and 70s, where they've been, and where they are today. It's a very interesting read.

 

My goodness @Diane Lane...I am being blessed by others with some really good books to read (that I haven't read) lately. Thanks for sharing the one you have with me. I'm going to go back to my Library's website and see if they have that one to check out too.

My oldest daughter is a teacher in the public school system here in Louisiana and I can see how miserable she is in that system. I knew this "stuff" was going on even when I was raising my kids and I wanted to home school them since we couldn't afford private Christian schools at the time. My ex had been a teacher before we married and he did not want me home schooling...so I did the next best thing...I made sure I knew what was being taught to my children, stood up to what I did not agree with and taught my children to question what was being taught to them too. It wasn't a perfect solution but I can say without a doubt that all three of my daughters have minds of their owns and don't just believe anything just because someone tells them that is the way it is. As for my daughter that is teaching in the public school system I don't think she will be there much longer...I see the stress etc. getting worse every time we visit with each other.

 

I hope this doesn't turn into a major rant, but I'd like to know what you all think about it.
Between myself, my siblings, and my kids, we attended a variety of schools in the U.S., and before the last school my youngest attended all the schools/districts had a policy:
When a student stays home from school because he/she doesn't feel well, the parent wrote a note explaining the absence- "Billy stayed home yesterday because he had a stomach-ache."
Depending how the school was set up, when the student returned to school he/she would deliver the "excuse note" to the school nurse or the attendance office.
Makes sense, right? Isn't that the way "we all " did it?

So, I was kinda confused when I was informed of a school policy in the last district. Excuse notes from parents were unacceptable, and remained unacceptable even if parent backed it up with a phone call. These approaches were deemed "unexcused absences," and there were repercussions to the student's school record.
The policy: in order to qualify as an excused absence, the returning student needed to bring in a note from a doctor.
Initially I thought they wanted to ensure kids weren't bringing contagious illnesses to school, but that wasn't it at all. When I approached the school board to inquire about this, one new member was helpful but all the long-time board members brushed me off except one. One of the most long-time members replied (as close as I can get to her exact words): too many parents here do not care if their kids go to school or not, and are perfectly willing to write phony excuse notes for their kids. In other words, she was saying parents are unconcerned about their kids' educations, and are untrustworthy liars.

In addition: in most cases when a student stays home, all he/she really needs is a quiet day of rest. Most parents know the difference between that and instances that require medical attention (such as strep throat -> see doctor for antibiotics). Not only is this policy inconvenient for students, and parents who are either at work or don't have cars, it's an unnecessary burden on doctors/nurses/ER's/clinics that need to put their time and effort into helping people who have serious illnesses or injuries.

Well, that's it in brief- what do you think?

 

It's been that way for quite awhile now Janice. I don't agree with it but I have found that if you have a Family Doctor that has been in your family for awhile that you can usually just call their Office and they will write out an excuse for you to pick up with out you having to make an appointment for your child. Some of the School Districts felt they had to do this because the kids in the higher grades were cutting school and forging excuses from parents or having a friend call in to excuse them....and the parents were clueless about this until the kids got caught, etc. So now everyone has to "pay" for the wrongs of some.

And there are actually parents that don't care if there children go to school or not....