Tartaria And The Great Mud Flood

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  1. Dwight Ward

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    Obviously they are uncovering existing rails. I have to be skeptical and surmise that the rails were possibly covered by silt and dirt from a flood or several floods.
    I'm looking into the whole subject of Tartaria afresh, as if there weren't enough conspiracies and mysteries in the world.
    Napolean asked, "What is history but a fable agreed upon?"
     
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    Along these lines, one thing about the Tartar invasion of Europe has always bothered me. The steppes of northern China and Mongolia had to be very thinly populated, no matter how warlike and brutal the inhabitants were. How did the scarce inhabitants become the hordes of Tartars coming together to conquer everything around them and to advance into Europe? It all seems implausible to me.
     
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    When I did a search this came up: https://www.jstor.org/stable/4202032 Notice 'jstor.org.' This is perhaps the best collection of all research. Every university and college libraries provide easy access to faculty and students. When I quit my part time at the local 2 year college 2 years ago, I was surprised to find that I have access at the county public library. Check your local library. Also, 'google scholar' does well searching for 'scholarly' things.
     
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    One of the things that I find really interesting in researching Tartaria and the old buildings that were so beautiful (and in every country around the whole world at one time), is that some of these awesome buildings are in places where there are very few inhabitants, compared to the size of the building, and of the tools, materials, and workmanship necessary to build it.
    As an example, a small town from the 1800’s might have people living in tiny wood homes, but a city hall or library that is a huge brick structure, that is totally unnecessary for the size of town it is located in.
    This video shows just a few of these buildings that seems like they do not fit in the timeline of where they are at. (It is just a 3 minute video)

     
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    I just watched a really interesting video about using something like chat-gpt to ask about the old-world buildings that were supposedly made by untrained labor in the early history of the United States.
    He took an example of an old court house, and fed in all of the information of the size, type of structure, and workmen needed, etc. Then he asked the AI to tell him what would be needed and how long it would take to build this structure, using what tools were available in the late 1800’s time period when the building was said to be built.

    The information from the AI is astounding, and it shows that there is no way this court house could have been built by the available resources of the time, not could it have been finished anywhere nearly as fast as history tells us.
    I can see where this could be an excellent use of AI chat functions to help us learn the truth about our history.

     
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    I actually have the same issue here. A side path of rectangular slabs has disappeared beneath the sod that's grown over it since I stopped lifting and underfilling with gravel every 2 to 3 years.

    My sandset paving block patio is now below "surface level" in the same way, so much so that I need to address drainage for heavy rain events.

    I suspect sinkage to some extent but more so new soil accumulation.
     
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    No hard facts just a mans opinion.
     
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    That is a strange video, and I stopped watching about half way through. The person speaks in such a condescending manner, yet does not give any actual reasons why he is doing that.
    He shows pictures that show the actual old civilization , and then speaks like it is ridiculous, instead of just saying why he thinks it is wrong.
     
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    Just be aware that AI makes stuff up if it doesn't have adequate information. I wonder what ChatGPT would say about the Sphinx, the Pyramids and the Pantheon?
     
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    That would be an interesting thing, and I wonder if someone has tried asking how long it would take to make something like that ? It would be hard to find information about all the materials used. The video used an actual court house that is still standing, and all of the information about when it was supposed to have been built (as far as time frame) was known information.
    All the person had to do was put in the known information about materials used, size of the building, and specify that it had to be made using tools and equipment from that time period. Since everything had to be hauled to the location using horses and draft carts, they had to include feed and water and stables for the horses, as well as the same for the laborers who worked on the project.
    The chat gpt put everything into its database, and said how much of everything would have been needed, and that it would have taken several years longer to build than the historical information about the court house gives us. So, even if it were actually built at that time, it would have taken a lot longer time.

    It is interesting how many of these old structures were supposed to have been built back when the population of an area was only a few thousand people, and everything else was a shed-like building.
     
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    I have been watching YT videos from a channel called simply “My Lunch Break”, and this guy has some really amazing facts and pictures about the old buildings here in the United States.
    He does his due diligence, and finds stats that show the same architect building huge structures all around the country, all in the same few years timeframe, and the buildings are finished in faster time than we could possibly do it even today, with all of our modern equipment and vehicles, not horses and carts.
    The architect would not have been able to be in all of these places at the same time to supervise all of the places he is said to have built.
    There are pictures of buildings showing that they existed years before history (like Wikipedia) tells us they were constructed. Pictures showing dirt roads being dug up and revealing huge brick roads underneath.

    For anyone who is interested in learning more about the historical buildings here in America, I definitely recommend subscribing to this guy’s channel. I have only just started watching the videos, and he goes into so much more, and in depth, with pictures and facts to prove what he is saying.

     
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    This guy is pretty good too, though covering geology more than anything else.

    Here he covers something only slightly on-topic but related: a great lost seaway in North America:

     
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    @Ivan Tea Sanderzon , sorry for being so negative with reply, not personal towards you, bad day..
     
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    People are entitled to their opinion(s) about things, no worries :)
     
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