Does Big Government Want To Erase Us?

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  1. Denise Evans

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    Maybe this should go in "conspiracy theories" but I hear so much that is anti-American, that it makes sense to me since history does seem to repeat itself.

    Seems to me like some want our minds on other things, so we won't notice the take-over. I see plenty of people just living in "lala" land without paying attention to what is actually happening.

    Distract the people, keep us deaf, dumb and blind. When Trump talked about the "snake" story, he hit the nail on the head. Oh, that won't ever happen to me, or anyone I know, famous last words:rolleyes:
    I like this guy's info, he travels around Canada and US with his wife, and just talks to every-day-folk about what is really happening in their lives:

     
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    We keep hearing that "we" have to have fewer children because "Save the planet" & crap, but for the past few decades, the birth rate of 1st World Cultures has already been below replacement level. Who doesn't get the "Stop breeding" lecture??? The countries whose populations continue to explode: India, China, and the countries of Africa. The same goes for pollution.

    And who got Vax Mandates forced on them with Ivermectin banned????

    Yes, the corrupted global powers was to kill us off so they can have the planet to themselves and only have slaves left.
     
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    Elon Musk is pushing to have kids- he has 11 from 3 different women. Oh and Why- because only really smart people should be having kids.Is he kin to Hitler ?
     
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    I know lots of people with kids who never expect to have a single grandchild. I only have one myself, and that might just be it.

    I put it all down to my sons selecting the wrong women and too late in life. It isn't even all attitude, but to a growing extent physical factors that lead to female infertility. Some perhaps genetic, others lifestyle choices and rotting oneself out with synthetic hormones for decades.

    I'm not blaming anyone, but choices have consequences beyond yourself... and impact society as a whole.
     
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    As a rule, people who claim to be smart tend to have fewer children. We had 6 and are on the way to 18 grandchildren, so I must be a real dummy. All my children are with the same woman though, and all of our children are still married to their original spouses.
     
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    I think there are many reasons that the birth rate is lower in the US and other first-world countries. For the first time in history women have real choice about whether to have children... and a surprising number are electing to be childless for their own reasons. This became a thing with oral contraceptives back in the 1960's.

    My ex husband and I wanted no more than 2 children, and that's how many we had... thanks to birth control pills and then a tubal ligation. I had no intention of being a "brood cow" and we wanted to have sufficient resources to give any child we had a decent upbringing.
     
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    When economies advance, then there are fewer reasons to have a lot of kids and there are more reasons to put resources into one or two, because now there are opportunities. You are correct about women's choices also being a factor.

    Those who scream for population control always seem to be against making efforts to bring 3rd world economies into modern times, mostly due to the lie that modernization increases pollution. The opposite is true.
     
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    Wouldn't it be better if we concerned ourselves with quality rather than quantity? If we make sure our children are physically and mentally healthy, properly educated and brought up to decent standards, surely this would be a good investment in the future? If the country is short of workers, we could allow in immigrants, but on the understanding that they uphold our standards and face deportation if they don't?
     
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    "Quantity"only exists outside of 1st World nations. Absent immigration, our populations are declining. This subject (and the "does government want to kill us?") is interesting because it's tied up in economics.

    To my knowledge, Japan is the only nation that will tolerate its GDP to ebb & flow with its population levels. Japan puts their culture before perpetual economic growth, but it has a social cost. It seems the rest of us are fixated on economic growth, and everything else centers around making growth continue forever. At least, it has been until now. I don't know how those who seem to be fixated on population reduction view what their economic world would be like should they succeed. We can rest assured that the law of unintended consequences is gonna apply.
     
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