Canada May Be Changing

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  1. Don Alaska

    Don Alaska Supreme Member
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    I don't know haw many Americans follow what happens to the north, but @Julia Curtis and others may be affected. In a parliamentary system, a vote of No Confidence can be called in order to depose a Prime Minister and force the formation of a new coalition. That has now happened in Canada as things there are deteriorating under Trudeau at a faster rate than under Biden-Harris. Here is the speech calling for a No Confidence vote in Canada.

     
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    Called for but not official.Pollieve is very similar to Putin.So I wouldn't count on a vote at this point.
     
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    With the resignation of the Finance Minister and the call by Trudeau's coalition partner Mr. Singh for Trudeau to step down seems to indicate either a new coalition will be formed, or, if not, snap elections will be held in Canada.

    Here is the Opposition Leader's speech. Does he sound a bit like Trump?
     
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    Singh wants Trudeau to step down instead of an early election so he can get his hefty pension. Their corruption is as bad as ours was under Biden. Trudeau was one of the WEF's golden boys.
     
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    Perhaps, but many Liberal MPs are now calling for Trudeau to step down. Singh just has the power to bring the government down. Freeland's resignation has shocked Trudeau as she has been a loyal supporter of Justin even when he has done stupid stuff. She apparently discovered that Trudeau was maneuvering to hang his government's failure on her. That led to her stepping away and perhaps running against Trudeau if she can pull the coalition together again. Parliamentary stuff is very confusing to us.
     
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    Rand Paul is citing Trudeau as an example of something we need to curb before it happens here. Mainly so many "emergency powers" allowed the Executive with Congress abdicating/failing to carry out its Constitutional role and the current legal headwinds to stopping unchecked "emergencies."

    Rand Paul Cites Justin Trudeau's Handling Of Trucker Protests To Warn Of Unchecked Power
     
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    Yeah, Congress has abdicated so many of their Constitutional powers to the Executive Branch that it has become unmanageable. Even the budget process, Congress' most powerful weapon, has been pretty much done away with since the 1990s
     
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    Rubber stamping more than abdicating. Is the latest CR for budget 6700 pages to be 'read' overnite and then passed?
     
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    I don't know if it is quite that long, but it is too long to be read by many prior to voting. It reportedly has a lot of Democrat fluff in it but it expires in 90 days, and Elon and Vivek say they will do what they can to undo it.

    What I am really talking about is Congress passing non-specific bills and allowing the bureaucrats to "fill in the blanks". While earmarks had many bad things, the earmarking did a lot to prevent this from happening. Now that earmarks are gone, there is nothing that makes the bureaucrats pend money in ways intended by Congress.

    All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.




    https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-1/section-8/


    The bureaucrats now do most of the legislating with only a little input from Congress.
     
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    It is 1500 pages. Fifteen hundred. :confused: Nothing hidden in there, I'm sure.
     
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    Singh in Canada is saying one thing and doing another. It seems he is wanting ot become a Republican in the U.S. Congress instead of working for Canadians:D
     
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    Might as well be a bazillion. I trapped my congressman before Obamacare passed and he brought a copy to the meeting. It was 900 pages. I asked if he had read it. He said no. He said if he read bills like that he would have no time for anything else.
    ?????:confused:
    This was shortly before he retired. He had been a good legislator to begin with. Probably most were. and then they are bought.
     
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    Perhaps they got bought. Most likely, they get steamrolled by the system. Those humongous bills are introduced with no time for anyone to read/digest them...and then a vote is called.
     
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    Marjorie Taylor Greene is newer and has not been steam rolled. What causes them to go under?
     
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    We always do it this way has ruled the budget process for too long.
     
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