A Family Question

Discussion in 'Family & Relationships' started by Janice Martin, Jun 2, 2016.

  1. Julie Stewart

    Julie Stewart Veteran Member
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    This is very well put and a powerful statement and I agree with what you're saying and the conclusion that you come to about the probable end game. I don't think it's just the US though, other governments and systems - their political leaders, financial leader and thought leaders - are in on this. They are part of the controlling elite. World media, with its emphasis on celebrity and sporting events treats us like children. The reporting of events in high dramatic fashion feeds our insecurities and the subliminal messages that bombard us decimates any chance of solidarity or resistance.
     
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  2. In addition to that, and some of Hillary's idiotic ideas, another huge threat to families is this (excuse the word) crap known as 'emancipating' minors. Some topics make me mad enough to spit nails, and that's one of them. Until I started doing a bit of research, I thought it was a) quite rare, and b) not very widespread. And I was wrong on both counts.

    In a relatively short period of time, this practice went from a few states to every state in this country.
    While ages vary, the youngest I saw was 14.
    And while procedures also vary from state to state, some encourage teens to sneak behind their parent's backs, get free 'youth law' services, and parents are completely in the dark until they're served with court papers informing them their kids aren't going to have to live with them anymore.

    Figure: many teens would 'dance on their toes' over the idea of 100% freedom, live on their own, no rules, etc.- but it doesn't necessarily turn out well when they're faced with The Real World.
    Plus it can go a long way in destroying families.
    I actually read on Bubblews awhile back (before the site went down) a guy pushing emancipation- he said 'sometimes kids and their parents simply don't need each other anymore!' and this guy was a longtime family counselor!!!

    Personally, I believe unless there's actual abuse, neglect, or other dangerous situations, kids belong at home with their parents/families until they finish high school.
    But evidently every state in the USA disagrees with this viewpoint.
     
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  3. Babs Hunt

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    Janice, my ex actually emancipated his son (my stepson) at the age of 16. It wasn't an easy decision to make and it was done for one reason only. From the time my stepson was 14 he started drinking and taking drugs, stole two of our cars while we were sleeping and totaled them, stole money and things at home that he would pawn, would not go to school, etc. Then went on to break into friend's homes, etc. and steal things. We tried Counseling, punishment, everything humanly possible to help him but nothing did and things just got worse. A friend who was a Lawyer advised my ex to emancipate his son...so that "legally" we could not be sued by anyone and lose our home, etc. because of what his son was doing.

    He was still allowed to live at home if he obeyed our rules. If he didn't want to go to school, then he needed to find a job and we encouraged him to get his GED. Those were nightmare years for all of us. And at one time he went to live with his grandparents (his mother's parents). His grandfather was a jail warden and had worked in the jail system for years and he felt maybe he could help his grandson. But even he admitted "defeat" in this after only a couple of months. It's really hard when you try everything you can to help someone you love...but nothing helps. He was in and out of our lives and would come home for periods of time and then take off again and we wouldn't see him for months. Emancipating my stepson made him "responsible" for his behavior...not my ex. When my stepson was in his early thirties he married and had two children...and it seemed that he had finally found his place in life. Yet in his forties, he ended up overdosing on a combination of drugs and alcohol. It was ruled a suicide...but we will never know if he intentionally took his life or not. He was loved by all of us...but our love could not help him or save him.
     
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  4. @Babs: I'm so sorry you had such difficult, painful experiences. It must have been very stressful for you and your family.

    I've never heard of the action your lawyer advised- maybe something for special circumstances?
     
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  5. Krissttina Isobe

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    Well, I believe the family will always be alive and well no matter what statistics say. Family is important and fun at the same time. Family is the foundation of everything special in the world! The family will never go out of style nor will it be replaced ever. Never fear the family will always be here!
     
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  6. Chris Ladewig

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    Divide and conquer definitely seems to be the agenda. loss of values,character and empathy surely will divide.
     
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  7. Texas Beth

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    I noticed that the family began falling apart in the mid seventies (also known as the Me Generation). And it has been getting worse ever since because of alcohol, drugs, and promiscuity/adultry, We have had financial stress through the generations but has minimally been the cause of divorce. And regarding children? My children are mine and God's. I do not approve of what is taught in the public school system and will be so glad when my youngest graduates next year!!!
     
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