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  1. Martin Alonzo

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    Should they be labeled?
     
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    This is an ongoing back and forth argument still unresolved in fact. I personally do not favor GMOs of any kind, especially animals eaten for meat.
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    I agree Frank but I think they should even go a step farther if insects eat the corn or soya they die so it is a pesticide so should be labeled as that. How many people would buy corn flakes if it said it is a pesticide?
     
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    @Martin Alonzo Very good point! The scheme used often in plant GMO gives the plant the ability to manufacture it's own pesticide! Then, we eat the pesticide laden vegetables.
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    They should be outlawed, IMO. Barring that, they should surely be labeled. We have a right to know what we're eating.
     
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    I don't really know enough about this topic to render an intelligent opinion. I have been told why we shouldn't beating GMO's but i really don't remember them now. I do try to buy products that have not been genetically modified, but we have been tinkering with out foodstuffs for years. I mean what are people going to go on strike about next? Hybridized corn? I just am not sure...why GMO's are so bad..pesticide laden plants..well, again we have been ingesting pesticides for years too unknowingly. Always wash your fruits and veggies.
     
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    Yes, it is my opinion that they should be labeled. I realize that many people don't have a problem with it and that's fine. I don't have a huge problem with it myself on a basic level, *BUT* if I see a label announcing it's GMO-free, I do tend to remember and pay more attention to it.
     
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    I don't believe organic is any better than regular just more expensive ....just like gluten free. That seems to be

    A catch all diagnose for any digestive problems or skin or who knows what. Then they have to avoid gluten.

    A few years ago you barely saw any gluten free products, now they take up a whole aisle in a normal grocery store.

    I know of a few instances where someone's child was diagnosed with something and couldn't eat gluten. Her parents stuck to it religiously and the poor girl looked horrible. Can you imagine a child not being able to eat
    Pizza, cake and all the stuff kids eat.
    After a few years they took her to another dr. First one was a quack and there's nothing wrong with her and she eats what she wants.

    As for GMOs...depends on who you believe. I don't worry about it. The rest of your food is coming from who knows where anyway.
     
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    As with everything else, there are always two sides. The fear-mongers moan about the dangers... there aren't really dangers to health as much as the greed factor controls it, according to this article. I don't think this is a quack "eat this spice and live forever" issue, but there are reasons for the hype.

    Read it here... interesting
     
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    Thanks, helps me understand it a little better.
     
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    @Ken Anderson In time, unless very astute individuals stockpile huge quantities of foodstock seed, it will become almost impossible to buy seed to raise produce that has NOT been produced with genetic modification, IMO. Recently, a farmer somewhere was sued by Monsanto for allowing some of his seed, which was non-GMO, infiltrate a crop nearby of Monsanto-produced GMO crap (literally, as they introduce E Coli genes in the seed). Monsanto would probably even sue Mother Nature, if it could.

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    @K E Gordon GMO foodstuffs are touted by the Chemical Industry as producing far more crop per acre (in the case of produce), when it seems the reality is more of lessening the cost of pesticides needed. Their claim is to have lowered the cost to the consumer. At the vegetable store, maybe yes, now consider the increased cost of risk associated with eating the stuff. Goes for meat, too. Some of the EU were pondering banning GMOs outright; some may have.

    "we have been ingesting pesticides for years too unknowingly"

    And the cancer rates have steadily increased as well. The "Practitioners of Public Subterfuge" tell us the reason is better detection methods available, discovering cancer earlier. Who should we believe?

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    Actually, they are doing worse. Farmers whose crops have been infected by Monsanto's GMO crops have been sued by Monsanto, as they consider that anything infected by Monsanto's genetically modified crops to be an improvement that this farmer had not purchased a right to. Someone mentioned washing fruits and vegetables. Well, you can't wash something out when it's in the DNA.
     
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    @Ken Anderson I saw reports from the 1930s in which a Monsanto technical employee warned his supervisor about the dangers of Asbestos. Report shelved, for many decades. Dug out after the Vehicle Brake Industry began experiencing way more than statistically expected lung cancer. In the late '70s I think it was rumblings went through the entire Chemical Industry about Monsanto likely filing bankruptcy eventually. They did.

    Then we found out Asbestos was used in Vermiculite for popcorn ceilings, insulation of many kinds, heat resistant sealing products, protective gloves, etc. Schools had oodles of it in the ceilings! Then someone revealed, too late if it is true, (maybe Ayn Rand?), that our domestically obtained Asbestos, much of it mined in Canada, I think, is harmless. "Only the variety mined in Africa causes cancer"

    Do you believe that? I don't. Frank
     
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    When I was in grade school, I remember the dressed chicken in the market that my mother bought. It was called leghorn. The meat is kinda tough. I was in high school when the vantres (not sure of the spelling) got to be the fashion. That chicken has tender meat and plump too. And later on, the dressed chicken have no more names although they are of different breeds. Now, the chicken meat is so tender that cooking is easy. My husband said that the chickens are fed with vitamins and probably chemicals (no basis for this though, just a hunch) the reason why chickens are still the cheapest meat - because they grow fast in just 45 days. Who wouldn't suspect that those chickens are synthetically grown?

    With other farm produce that are called GMO or frankenfood, we are at the mercy of the farm people. They are trying to raise crops that grow faster and with good yield to feed us. And if they do it the natural way then there probably won't be enough food for all of us.
     
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