Beating The Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Ken Anderson, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. Bobby Cole

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    Yup, I figure that around November the 3rd should be the expiration date on the virus so if we can all make it until then without dying from the virus, all will be well.

    Uh oh. When the virus meets its expiration date, does that mean all of the other stuff that killed people but are now absent will suddenly return?
     
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    Which brings about the question of why is it easier for a major portion of humanity to believe in an illusion of reality than reality especially when the illusion is much worse than the real?
    Are there people in the world who would much rather be in the middle of a nightmare as opposed to waking up and opening their eyes to that which is real?

    Pity those whose perspective is so dimly lit.........
     
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    Only the Flu, on that list, is contagious. And "they" do try to "encourage" getting flu shots. It wouldn't be such a bad idea to try to enforce annual flu shots just a little bit more, imo.

    The other causes of death on the list are a burden to other people mostly financially (e.g. high insurance premiums, loss of productivity). They do provide benefits to the pharmaceutical industry, much more than production of vaccines.
     
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    I was kind of hoping for the murder hornets. They were cheated out of their fifteen minutes of fame, I think.
     
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    You seen any hornets around here?
    Killer bees.jpg
     
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    Lots to pick apart in that observation.

    We all know that we tend to remember the first thing we learned of a subject, and that first impression is tough to eradicate. (Think of getting the name of a new acquaintance wrong and perpetually fighting the urge to overcome the urge to call them by it.) Reputations are destroyed by this, while the destroyer always has the cover of "I corrected it later."

    Once people have "This is a killer!" imprinted, that image can never be erased. So they go into the "just in case" mode of being.

    The reaction to COVID has been a dry run for Global Warming Global Cooling Climate Change hysteria. After all, we don't really know. And look at the cost if we're wrong!!!

    We are risk-adverse creatures and so easily controlled by fear.
     
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    Yes, we do agree and may I add though, that this type of fear is fueled not by those people who have the equipment to see and examine the workings of the creature, but by those who plagiarize their knowledge in order to purposely distort it. ( Al Gore and Greta Thurnberg among others have made millions from such tactics. )
    They know that very few have actually seen the virus and only a very small percentage of the world has truthfully experienced the effects of it but yet, through mass manipulation, the whole world is expected to come to a standstill. And it has ....simply because there are those who, instead of learning the truth, they rely on others whose job depends on how much sensation they can export to the masses to tell them the truth.
    Is it a lack of ambition or have they been so bottle fed all their lives that anything with a nipple on it is considered a safe haven? Do they not consider that knowledge is not just some liberty that has been given to us but instead, something that has to be searched for....and cherished? Our very lives depend on it.

    Perhaps it is as it was when I was very young. I thought that everyone in school was like me and thought the subjects that were being taught were too easy and it confused me deeply when I found out that my assumption was not in any way the truth. We all have a body, practically the same brain, we all like to eat and so on but still....we’re vastly different from each other.
    Our perception of reality is only what our brain tells us it is and to that end, it is only through the search of knowledge that can make us more alike.
    Alas, that search for knowledge is an inherent piece of structure to all humans but unfortunately, some of us attempt to read and understand the whole book whilst others simply buy the Cliff Notes.

    I suppose I’m rambling. Mixed thoughts. Mixed feelings about the whole ordeal and a lot of disappointment because of what I see and hear.
    If more people simply understood that just as a fulcrum can proverbially move the world, with enough knowledge there can no fear.
     
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    You know, I never did well in school. VERY chaotic home life, with no sane place to go nor any reason to succeed. But even that spurred a retreat into reading. In many ways, I've been trying to make up for it throughout my adult years. When I got my Associates at night, with one or two exceptions I got As. I had a little distance from the mess and a sense of self-worth. So I can see a couple of sides of it.

    In the mid 70s, I got into a job I had my eye on that required passing a basic electronics exam. I went to the library after work and on Saturdays, did some studying, and passed the exam. While I was writing Field Work Orders that went into the office for possible conversion into invoices, the guy who was their Finance Department who I knew from being there (it was a 25 person shop) liked my writing style and moved me into Finance with him...with a high school diploma. I then took over purchasing and inventory management. The place grew, I had to make a choice, I stayed with purchasing. I would still go to the library on weekends and work on categorizing our vendors by S.I.C. Classification Codes, engage in industry research, and learn whatever else might help me on the job. This is when I went to school at night and got my degree.

    They say "Where there's a will, there's a way." There are a lot of things in life that can kill one's will besides laziness. As you said, fear is a killer (just one example.) It's tough to out-function your family. You've got your own head to deal with plus whatever attempts at sabotage might be slung. But that does not mean we excuse or lower standards or give things away. We do offer help.

    The other side to it is that we all have our limitations across a very broad range. I commented elsewhere that I managed a Hess gas station and had an 18 year old man work for me who I discovered could not make change for a $5 purchase when someone handed him a $10 bill. He wasn't lazy. He was a real nice guy. He just had his own set of limitations.

    I've tried to offer help as much as I can. If anyone who reported to me wanted to explore a different career path, I would help. I would put them in whatever position I could to get related exposure. I've stayed after hours to help people learn business stuff, computer stuff, whatever stuff (even people who didn't work for me.) Anyone who is motivated has my time, given freely.

    I am infuriated that kids go off to college as that final transition from childhood to adulthood, and are provided "Safe Spaces." You gotta wonder if there's a Binky surcharge tacked on to tuition. This affects all students who are part of the infantilizing environment. There can be no greater betrayal (besides "family") than that of an institute of learning demanding that you eat their lead paint. Yet here we are, huh?

    I say it all springs from the destruction of the family, as imperfect as it has always been. But it was not met with much resistance. So in that regard, I've often wondered how people might answer this question:

    "When we say we want our children to 'do better' that we did, exactly what is meant by that? How is that measured?"

    /my own rambling
     
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    Every time I bring up HCQ and even POTUS said they should look into it. These leftest scream back oh yes he said to drink bleach. This is only the media who said that not Trump. I listen to the speech and he said they should look into HCQ and Chlorine dioxide we all know what HCQ is but Chlorine dioxide is a water purifier used in camping and also put in some city water supplies. This yelling bleach is a half true like telling someone you drink explosive hydrogen gas which is true but when mixed with oxygen it is water. They [the media] play on the ignorance of people the worst is the people repeat it as gospel. One man made chlorine dioxide very famous calling it MMS that had tons of anecdotal evidence.
     
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    UNauthorized right now - concerning broadcast on "meet the press" KJRH television antenna >>

    using an unauthorized method of voice analyses , the government health official saying masks and social distancing is needed, is xxxxx...... nationally saying things that do not line up with things previously proven.... (edited to avoid black helicopts or limos or blakc and white squadcars visiting, potentially) .... )

    using history as a reference, knowing the history of the government and bigfarma (sic), she is xxxxx... saying things that do not line up with proven facts historically published for over a century.

    using history as a reference, from doctors and scientists who are not politically accepted, but have proven their positions for decades, she is xxxxx ... saying things that do not line up with what was long proven true.

    i.e. fake news about the epidemic is fake. (self-identified?) ...

    oh, there is (in some places, ) really, really a disease and deaths occurring. If they would tell the truth about all of it, there would not have been any shutdown at all, and there would be no scare-mongering by force...
     
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    I used to think that all the 'churches' at least would be true, truthful, honest, and I was rejoicing to "be saved" as if I was the last person in the usa to be saved - that all the others in all the churches were saved and I would be able to continue having great and wonderful fellowship anywhere I went.

    One by one, they each proved with their own words and actions that they were following some religion , and not even knowing the Creator at all..... it devastated me, it broke my heart over and over for their sakes, for their loss at such self-denial/self-deception.

    To the first point though >>
    a senator on meet the press is xxxxx (saying things that are totally contrary to what is known and proven to be true) now, apparently, to "move forward" the covid emergency (created by the government and bigpharma) ...
    they used >>
    "this type of fear is fueled not by those people who have the equipment to see and examine the workings of the creature, but by those who plagiarize their knowledge in order to purposely distort it. "

    Who was first plagiarizing to make money , medically speaking ?

    Pasteur. (and those who follow him)...


    i.e. many decades ago...and overall since then.

    Now using the so-called 'germ theory' , billions of peopole have been tricked by so-called professionals and authorities.... wittingly or not. (they (the authorities) may have been deceived all their lives, and really think the things they believe and say are truth, even though it results in widespread disease and death) ...

    .... " without any accountability"!?!? "FOR human rights?!" (more xxxxx (untrue facts spoken on meet the press that is contrary to previously proven truth in facts and experiences) on meet the press right now) ...
     
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    Well, in the next few days / weeks we’ll have a vaccine for Covid-19. Everyone at some point will be told they need to get it. A lot of folks will lose their jobs if they refuse the vaccine and I predict that gyms and other “clubby” type venues and later, schools will also insist on a vaccine card.

    All that said, in the first 8 months of the big scare there was less than 10K people whom the CDC can honestly say died from straight-up Covid-19.
    The last 3 months are pretty blurry but if the first 8 is any kind of paradigm as to the flow of the “deadly” virus we probably haven’t had even 11K who have died in the U.S. of the virus all by itself.

    10K out of 330,000,000 and thanks to the media and guys like Fauci nearly everyone is going vaccine crazy. There’s got to be some major bucks being paid to some major players for all this hype to happen.
     
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    Yes, and even worse -
    doing nothing previously this year, most people had no problem at all, except with the government.
    Now, if it goes as expected, many people will suffer, some catastrophically (serious and maybe death),
    because of going along with the government assurances , and many families will likewise suffer when they do what they are "told is okay", and lose a family member or have serious maybe long lasting side effects.

    When , again, if they did nothing, no harm would have been done for them. (except what government and the public does to them for not going along with vax)
     
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    Anyone who dies from the effects of the vaccine will be said to have died of COVID-19, and their deaths will be used to argue for mandatory vaccines. If everything goes as planned, Bill Gates will have achieved his goal of reducing the world's population through vaccination.
     
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    Historically, that is the same thing they did with cancer - if / when someone dies of chemo (which is many),
    it is not attributed usually to the toxic drugs and major side effects -
    no,
    it is called a death due to cancer , or some other made up reason, when they did not have to die at all, if they had been told the truth in time to do what is right and true and helpful.

    But, that's the way of big money.... is it billions every year, or more, raised for one or another 'disease' as if it was not already known how to .....
     
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