This Was, Is And Continues To Be Known: No Evidence Lockdowns Work

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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    No.
     
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    I'm moving my time up by a month - so it will probably be mid-Feb.
    My prayers are for a fast return to normalcy.

    I will get back to my church and S.S. class the first Sun after my shot. I can't wait, to be honest.
    My grand-kids will be among I hope to see shortly after that.
     
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    Probably never. As for normalcy, we will return to normalcy when and if our masters decide that we can, or when enough of us get sick of the ridiculousness. The virus is the excuse, not the reason.
     
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    It may be offered to me by summer, at least so they say, provided everything goes smoothly. Not sure if I'll take it, though.
    Got my last flu shot in 1984 but a pneumococci shot three weeks ago.
     
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    How convenient >> "More importantly, many have wondered whether the flu vaccine can actually give you influenza. According to the Mayo Clinic, the answer is a definitive no. However, the vaccine does have the potential to give you flu-like symptoms—which could occur because of your reaction to the shot."

    (i.e. more people may be harmed by the shot , than helped)

    "Still, perhaps many don’t see the point of getting vaccinated, especially when the shot’s effectiveness only ranges from 20% to 60% "

    (Is ANYONE really benefiting from the shots ? (yes, those who are selling it) )

    "Despite the touted benefits of getting a flu shot each year, the majority of U.S. adults and about 60% of children still refuse to roll up their sleeves for one, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention"

    (Sadly, this might change due to the sales force this year) (not anything to do with effectiveness at all of any shot, but basic simple fear instilling sales techniques prompted in large part by PROFITS (not prophets) )
     
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  7. Jeff Elohim

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    "Paul explained that he isn’t recommending at risk people just ignore the virus, adding “But I’m also telling you that the government shouldn’t tell you you can’t go to church and the government shouldn’t tell you can’t send your kids to a religious school.”
    “There’s good advice and you can take advice and you can give advice. But once you mandate it, it doesn’t become advice. It becomes a form of tyranny,” the Senator asserted.
    “So I think the government should not be in the form of mandating these things, because sometimes the science isn’t clear and sometimes they change their mind on the science month to month and week to week,” Paul added.
    Senator Paul has vowed to do everything in his power to resist Joe Biden’s “forever lockdowns”.

    “He’s going to ruin the country. Lockdowns don’t work. And in fact, all of the evidence on mandatory masks show that they don’t work either,” the Senator urged in an interview last month."


    “They’ve studied this in four different country-wide studies. They’ve studied the incidence of the disease, they’ve studied the transference of the disease, and they’ve found that closing schools doesn’t work. Even the socialist [New York City Mayor Bill] de Blasio is now opening schools,” the Senator emphasised.
    Paul has been calling for schools to be open since the Summer, consistently pointing out that there is no science behind the closures."

    “If you look at the incidence of COVID, it’s going up … exponentially despite all the mandates. So those who say there is science [behind the restrictions] just aren’t paying attention to it,” Paul continued.

    Paul, who last week slammed lockdown zealot Dr. Anthony Fauci for doing a complete 180 on schools being closed, urged that “keeping all our kids home isn’t changing the course of this disease.”

    https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/main-coronavirus-thread.566780/page-1321
    (very long thread)

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    All this news , all the evidence, from the past century, from the past 12 months, from the last sars virus scares and others,
    show that the locdowns and masks don't work,
    and
    neither do immuniszations - no, they are dangerous and costly (3 billion shots expected to be ready to distribute soon - reported on face the nation channel 6 news this morning) ....
     
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    Well, no matter what YOU think or have read, our opinion is...........masks and lockdowns do work. But, and a might big "BUT", will wait and see what the vaccine does.

    All everyone wants, Jeff, is.............somewhat to all things, back to normal!
     
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    It's not ever going to be 'normal'.

    No opinions needed at all..... read the news worldwide - masks and lockdowns have not worked. Read the results of unbiased reports.

    Just now on face the nation, they "have the vaccines ready" to put to a lot of old people in nursing homes and facilities,
    BUT
    they are waiting (until 12/21 or later) UNTIL they get ALL of them to sign away their rights first. That way, there's less to no chance that many will change their minds when they see what happens to others -
    they will all already have signed away their consent, their right to sue,
    and they can be given the shot without concern of liability of having to pay lawsuits and for the extra health care needed from the damage done, and deaths, from the vaccines (known for over a century now).

    "so many more concerns" what may happen from the virus, than from the vaccine ...
    quoted on face the nation just now...

    People have not been told the truth .... the young woman quoted above did not realize that there is almost zero risk to her IF SHE GETS exposed and catches anything. There is wilful, liable , risk IF she gets the vaccine.
     
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    Well, whatever. Will America ever be a "little" more happy again. Many, many sure hope so, but as long as there are those that are constantly complaining about the virus stuff and the election............

    To a point, if things can't be changed to what some want, as the old saying goes.........."let it be!". There are certain things that go in America today that wife and I don't believe in and/or like, but we also know that we can't do a thing about. One thing for sure, we can't go back to the old Lassie and Rin Tin Tin days, like many Baby Boomers and older would like.
     
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    This brings up many specific or general points that might be continued later, God Willing, in this or other threads.
    They may be important to a few, to some, or to many people.

    The deception and other activities of drug makers and governments is far greater this year than in past years, in the usa. A lot of it was prepared for, for decades, in the bad information given to the public, and taught in public schools, private schools, law schools and medical schools.

    So it is no surprise millions of people were so easily tricked into wearing masks and getting shots...
    but it is still a bad thing that they were tricked - the deception is worse than just the wearing a mask is (which wearing a mask might be good to do in isolated locations - but never a national mandate nor lockdown).

    What is best, what is healthiest, what is good, was suppressed overwhelmingly not just by media, but by the drug makers and schools teaching the doctors to be. (I've been surprised partly at how many doctors don't know how to bring about a cure of deficiencies, diagnosed as other legal and serious diseases) ...
    (or that they won't discuss it except in private, or they would lose their job ) ...
     
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  12. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Our of sure curiosity, are you running for a political office? LOL
     
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  13. Jeff Elohim

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    Too bad that curiosity did not cause you to test the politics years ago before trusting them.

    I learned decades ago not to trust any politic party - no matter who says something, it must be tested before being accepted, it must be proven true ....

    The things people have accepted , the lies they accepted, to be taken into the wars,
    they later defend, either they or their sons (and daughters) "fought" for something.... and it is harder then to find out it was deception, and for money, and for drug trafficking, and other things worse...

    No politician gets in or stays in office if he tells the truth too often, if he exposes the corruption.... most of the money and power relies on the system being continuing, deceiving, corruption.
     
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    In an update to the above post, the UQ vaccine program director Professor Trent Munro said phase one of the trial will now continue despite the announcement to pull the plug on a large-scale trial that would have measured the efficacy of the vaccine. Thus ruling out the vaccine as a possible cure to be rolled out nation-wide.
    "I think the most important thing about this (termination) is that it had nothing to do with safety. So it wasn't a safety issue," stated Professor Munro.
     
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  15. Martin Alonzo

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    Australian government probably dose not want a vaccine because they will lose the reason for their tyrannic government action.
    How can you have a lock-down if everyone has been vaccinated
     
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