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Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Trevalius Guyus, Dec 9, 2020.

  1. Cody Fousnaugh

    Cody Fousnaugh Supreme Member
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    Well, this virus must have been some kind of big deal or Trump wouldn't have had a Navy Hospital Ship sent to two different cities. And, Walmart had a Security Guard placed outside the only entrance into our local Walmart. If you wasn't wearing a mask, you simply weren't allow to enter. The Security Guard meant it and he looked like a former WWF wrestler!
     
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  2. John Brunner

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    How many beds were occupied on those ships?

    And you're still saying "The response to the virus means that it was bad," without giving data on the effects of the virus itself. "We had to wear masks; therefore, it must have been bad" is not evidence.

    I'm not picking on you for my benefit, I'm trying to get you to think about what the facts are and for you to not allow yourself to be manipulated with fear.
     
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    How many patients did those ships treat? Not a one. 'nuff said.
     
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  4. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Not going to get into this any deeper. What we do know, as facts, is that two Navy Hospital ships were in two cities. ICU Departments were full of Covid 19 patients on ventilators. And, on and on.

    IOW, and wife and I will keep saying this again and again.............you folks believe in what you want to and we will believe in what we want to.

    And, what we do know is...........neither of us want to be in the ICU on a ventilator, hoping to live.
     
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  5. Mary Stetler

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    The problem is his having already gotten the vaccine. If what we are saying here is true, that will instill fear.
     
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    When Covid was first brought to the nation, it was thought by the "elites" to be a bio-weapon that had been released by China. While it was probably due to bioweapons research, it, in all likelihood, was an accidental release. Otherwise the Chinese would have released it elsewhere. Treatments were not known, and, sometimes in states like New York and California, successful treatments, when discovered, were outlawed to reflect badly on Trump. If this had happened under Obama or even Biden, it would not have been a big deal, just as the H1N1 was under Obama. Trump was pressured and everything he did was jumped on and criticized no matter how valid an action. Trump is responsible for the vaccine, but Biden is responsible for the current panic and fear. New York demanded ventilators even though Cuomo's own health advisors had advised that the state purchase ventilators as a precaution after the 2009 experience in 2012 as part of his first complete budget. Cuomo overrode the advice and spent the allotted money on an upstate solar energy plant that later went bankrupt and took the state subsidy with it. Cuomo didn't think it was important until he needed the vents (or thought he did. Turned out it was generally the wrong path to take), he blamed Trump for some reason and Trump did everything he could to satisfy the perceived need both for beds and vents. Samaritan's Purse also set up a field hospital in Central Park and were told to take it down as they didn't want a Christian organization serving New York's population.

    Like I said, if this had happened under Obama, it would not have been a big deal unless they realized what a panic they could cause and what fear they could instill in the American populace...then it would have been a big deal and a chance to spend lots of money we were borrowing from the Chinese.
     
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    Understood.

    But Truth is what matters. If lies got some people to take the vaccine, you cannot continue to lie to everyone so that some do not know the truth of what was done to them.
     
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    The medical mafia is stronger than any country and at this time dictate to the world.
     
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    Lets you know they don't believe the "safe and effective mantra". While we are the most litigious country on earth, vaccines are immune from suits here due to the immunity law passed in the 1980s, but apparently they are afraid of high money lawsuits even in third-world countries.
     
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  11. Marie Mallery

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    Which is most of the people I know.So far they don't push it on us or the others who don't drink the Kool Aid.
     
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  12. Bobby Cole

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    I can’t wait until the 5th wave when the people with 4 shots are blaming it on the people with 3 shots. #shots
     
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  13. John Brunner

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    After your 5th shot, you're certified to sell masks.
     
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    Poor first responders are up to 73% test positive now in N.Fl. we are losing firemen one today and one on ventilater.
    This is not getting any better with Vaccines.
     
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  15. John Brunner

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    I got another newsletter email from University of Virginia Health Systems.

    In part, it says:
    I have yet to see any comparative data regarding the odds of a nonvaccinated person getting it. There are no specifics by which to weigh one's options...perhaps the gap is not that great, huh? If it were, the "science"would be thrown in our faces all day/every day.

    The newsletter also stated
    UVA Hospital is part of UVA Health, but UVA Health includes a ton of doctors and centralized schedulers and billers. This makes me wonder if all administrative folks are now caught up in this, regardless of their proximity (or not) to patients. It's a huge system with tentacles that have expanded into many surrounding counties.
     
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