Questions On Covid Vaccines ( Not Politically Motivated )

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  1. Bobby Cole

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    Funny thing this morning. One of our local radio announcers got vaccinated for covid-19 this last Friday and was tested for the virus yesterday because he didn’t feel well and yup, he has CV-19.
    Instead of treating him they sent him home to await an appointment for the infusion. No meds, no prescription, no nothing.
    I’m not one of the very learned doctors but I was under the distinct impression that the sooner one got the infusion the better but this guy has to wait for it?
     
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  2. John Brunner

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    Well, in the interest of my being intellectually honest, I believe they are saying that the vaccinated have a higher chance of contracting the variant than they do other strains, not that the vaccinated have a higher chance of contracting the variant than the unvaccinated do (I sent that UVA email to a Kool Aid drinking friend and received a scathing response.) But these statements always lack any quantitative backup. They present no figures. The degree of disparity is not there for us to digest.

    A reasonable person would conclude that if the facts reconciled with the rhetoric, we would have numbers being thrown in our faces all day/every day. Their statement that the unvaccinated "appear to be more likely" to suffer serious illness and death is a great example...the statement is full of bet-hedging, and supporting data is conspicuous by its absence.
     
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    Vaccinated people should isolate and wear triple masks whenever they go outdoors. Come on, man! It's science!
     
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  4. Don Alaska

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    It is right to question any of those statements when concise data is not given. As you stated, there are a lot of hedging words in the statement. I interpret it for what I believe it says behind the curtain. When thye don't give you the data, it is because it doesn't meet the "party line". Most and Many and More Likely are terms used when the numbers don't say what you want them to say.
     
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    It now appears that they only treat you if you O2sat goes below 92%. There are criteria for receiving the infusion; perhaps he didn't meet them.
     
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    Which is why, when anyone dies after coming within half a mile of Dr. Fauci's virus, they were reported as having died of COVID-19 while, at the same time, when someone dies after getting the vaccination, there's never sufficient proof to show that this was what killed them.
     
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  7. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Wife is scheduled for her Covid 19 Booster this coming Saturday at local hospital. I got mine scheduled today, same hospital, but on the 26th of this month. Sometime between the two dates, we will both get our Senior Double-Dose Fluzone shot at Walmart or ?

    Have to get ready for our 4-day trip to Las Vegas in the first of December.
     
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  8. John Brunner

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    From a comment in a news article:

    The protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to get the same protection that didn’t protect the protected.
     
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  9. Mary Stetler

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    https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1443777704994672644?s=20
    One of my Senators was dismayed about not being able to get any or the US figures either. He got the numbers from England and other countries which are more open. And the vaccinated contracted disease and died too.
    Not much more than 'regular' flu and not enough for mandates.
     
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    The Unvaccinated Are Looking Smarter Every Week
    American Thinker
    October 16, 2021

    Extracts:

    -It has been shown now that the vaccinated equally catch and spread the virus.

    -Carnegie Mellon University did a study assessing vaccine hesitancy across educational levels. According to the study, what’s the educational level with the most vaccine hesitancy? Ph.D. level!

    -VAERS, our [hhs.gov] vaccine adverse effect reporting system, showed at the beginning of this week 16,000 deaths, 23,000 disabilities, 10,000 MI/myocarditis, 87,000 urgent care visits, 75,000 hospital stays, and 775,000 total adverse events. The VAERS system is widely known to under-report events, with an estimated 90 to 99% of events going unreported there.

    *************************************************************​

    ...and so much more.
     
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  11. Don Alaska

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    A former director of the CDC makes a statement. After it was announced that 70% of the hospitalized in Florida are fully vaccinated, the advisor to the governor of Maryland says this:
    link
     
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    Wow. I have 2 things to say:

    1-This whole thing is evil.

    2-I don't understand what the motive was for that bit of honesty. It's not in character for Maryland. They gotta be setting people up for something...a new & improved booster, maybe?
     
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    Don't know, but perhaps he is just being honest and wants to dispel the idea that the vaccine really protects you. The ones pushing that narrative are those invested in Big Pharma.
     
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    For those of you who are interested in at-home prevention and treatment. IU only know one couple who have signed up for this, but they both got Covid and were cured in a few days.

    Link
     
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    If I had cancer, I would take care of it myself in my home. I would not agree to be poisoned in order to enter a dangerous hospital where most people these days don't survive.

    That's because "covid19" is caused by the vaccination ingredients -- not by a virus. :cool:
     
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