The Problems With Using A Gun For Self Defense

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    Many of them are. They don't generally tell the whole story but the fictitious ones are pretty easy to spot, at least if they're not sponsored by the government or the mainstream media.
     
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    The key word is "aggressor" I assume. The cop's behavior would determine that. I know that locally, a cop entered a home without a warrant and got fired. There are bad cops.
     
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    This would depend as to why the cop is the aggressor. What would you be doing to come after you?
     
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    Here is a discussion for those who would like to pursue this subject:
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    and here is a playlist of scenarios played out by normal people :
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    Maybe nothing. Maybe they've got the wrong address, or a neighbor is upset with me because of the smoke from my firepit. Maybe I yelled at my computer and someone called the police thinking there was a domestic disturbance, and the police didn't come by until hours later, after I had forgotten all about my computer and gone to bed, similar to what occurred with the man I spoke of earlier, who was shot several times by the police. Maybe I did something wrong but it wouldn't ordinarily rise to a death penalty case. Maybe I am considered a domestic terrorist because I had a Trump sign on my lawn. The chances are that it won't happen, but things do happen.
     
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    Too many what ifs, carry a knife they don't run out of bullets and can kill just as easy as a gun.
     
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    When I lived in Las Vegas, a couple of cop friends of mine told me that if a thief uses a gun to steal, chances are he’s going to be hesitant and sometimes too scared to use it and the victim will generally go unscathed.
    On the other side, they also agreed that if a thief carries a knife to do his evil deeds, chances are he’s more than willing to use it and likes to get up close and personal so a victim needs to use anything and everything at their disposal to keep from getting injured or killed.
     
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    the man answered the door with his rifle in hand....usually when police arrive...their flashing lights would permeate windows...
    you wouldn't think it was a ufo coming for you...
    it's the police..
    that man made a fatal decision
     
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    Police and guns don't mix. A policeman can not take the chance that a man with a gun is peaceloving, to them it is shoot first sort it out later. It is not a movie or tv series it is real life and dangerous for them they only have seconds to make a decision of life or death and there is no retakes. Anyone confronting police with a gun is not going to come out on top or fair well, most likely get shot at worse or beat the crap out of him or her after takedown.
     
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    @Samual Yoder

    Perhaps so, but not necessarily always the case. I cite as an example an instance when my friend John and I were doing some target practice on Carver Mountain, outside Phoenix, one-quarter mile from my house. A city cop pulled up to us, and engaged us in conversation. He was alone. We stood there holding our handguns at our sides. He asked to see them, checked serial numbers for legal status, then told us a call had been received of shooting in the area. Kind of ridiculous, really, as the side of that mountain was a mass of shot-up earth; shooting was heard there almost daily. I mentioned that, as well as the fact we met the state law distance requirement from occupied buildings. He then politely left, suggesting we come back another time.

    Frank
     
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    fwiw, guns kill millions fewer people than drugs, jabs, medicine does.
    One report (by a whistleblower?) said that the kids were required to be burned up because they had been cured of diseases in ways not desired by the drug lords. All the rest was smoke and mirrors.
     
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    Approximately half the gun deaths in the United States are self-inflicted. If you added the number that are clearly accidental, and those that are inflicted by the police, I'm thinking that gun crimes wouldn't be considered that big of a problem, statistically.
     
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    That may be a policy in some departments, or in the movies, but what I've seen is that they want to surprise people when they are making a house call. Depending on the nature of the call, they might respond with lights and siren but they will cut them before they pull up on the house.
     
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    Last I saw, 65% of gun deaths in Alaska were self-inflicted.
     
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    One of my childhood friend's lost her son to rifle, he fell down steps and gun went off killed him, My other best childhood friend son just committed suicide last year.
    Living in the wild west type society now we need guns.
     
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