Seniors Only Club's Green New Deal

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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    Actually not joking. :D :p
     
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    But it was funny and at times I don't like my kids,grands and greatgrands much either.And say to heck with their future let em " ignore " that like they do me most of the time,:D But then I do hope they have a future.
    Plus Beth all that plastic and chemicals go into our food too.:confused: Fish eat the plastic,we eat the fish. 17% of our protein comes from the oceans.For some its the main source of food.
     
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    Well I recycle plastic, glass and paper, I’m also not a litter bug so I guess that’s a way to keep our environment clean. Other than that I pay my taxes and expect them to be used to keep our water and air clean but who knows with these ding dongs running the show…. I’m probably forgetting something but there you go! :)
     
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    This is probably more than most of us do ,I use to but now not so much since we don't hve that much to deal with.
    Much of what we recycle goes to a dump or loaded on a ship and taken o poor nations like India.Or thats what I hear could be wrong. But whatever you do is better than nothing.
     
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    I just saw this yesterday too. I think instead of forcing stuff that the government is pushing, they should fund this and save the oceans. Texas last winter proves the folly of solar and wind. It is not possible to provide the energy we need!!!
    The plastic in our waters is getting thick enough to walk on. Sea birds and fish are stuffed with it thinking it is food. Babies are stuffed full and starve to death. And we eat the plastic filled fish with the plastic in their muscles.
     
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    But Texas, as I heard it, doesn't have much in the way of solar and wind power to begin with. So how could wind and solar be blamed for the failure?
     
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    Bottom line, people of our generation(s) lack the will or imagination or scientific understanding to have much effect on current climate issues. All we can do is blindly hope that the 'kids' come up with some Good Green Ideas that actually work.
     
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    And this looks like it might be a great way to keep plastic out of the oceans!

    "Plastics are strong, durable, waterproof, lightweight, easy to mould, and recyclable – all key properties for construction materials. . . The main issue is not with plastic as a material, but with our linear economic model: goods are produced, consumed, then disposed of. This model assumes endless economic growth and doesn’t consider the planet’s exhaustible resources."

    And as for EV battery objections, that technology is definitely still in the 'Model T' stage. New research and possibilities abound!

    But first the hide-bound human fossil-fuel 'dinosaurs' have to step down and stand back. Which probably won't happen soon enough to make much of a difference.
     
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    From this website
    https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=TX comes the following statement
    "Renewable energy fueled more than one-fifth of all utility-scale net generation in Texas in 2020, and the state accounted for one-fifth of the nation's utility-scale electricity generation from nonhydroelectric renewable sources".


    So you think that on-fifth is not much? please define not much
     
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    Way to go....Classify people who think as hide-bound dinosaurs. I think you who have a new religion of climate change are delusional
     
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    Sounds like you have it made, animals probably appreciate your generosity and hands off policy.
     
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    Link opens in another tab but video will not play when I click the play button. Maybe all my pop up extensions are blocking it.
     
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    I just went to that site and noticed that PBS uses a proprietary video player that loads onto systems. I'm surprised that it successfully loaded for me, since I use Firefox and have everything locked down tight, to include 3rd party security extensions. Heck, there are times I have a problem viewing the weekly grocery store ad because of all the blockers I use!!!

    I found that episode on You Tube.



    Everything old is new again, huh?​
     
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    Thank you for correcting my carelessly-cited statistics.

    But according to that same site, the failure of the ERCOT grid was caused by a number of factors, and not solely by insufficient solar and wind.

    Oil, coal, and natural gas also failed, worsened by maintenance issues and lack of administrative lack of foresight.

    But most to blame was the extreme weather event that precipitated the crisis.

    Which brings us back to climate change, and the highly disputed science behind it.
     
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    I'm sorry if anyone took that comment personally!

    I was referring --- as always --- to corporate entities, and to the desiccated old Reptilian politicians who enable them.
     
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