What's Your Thought's On Ufo's? Hoax Or Real?

Discussion in 'Conspiracies & Paranormal' started by Lon Tanner, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. Bobby Cole

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    In contrast, I had a S. Korean friend who said that those with slanted eyes originally came from another planet. I thought he was kidding but nope, he was dead serious and to some degree it makes as much sense as the three most accepted reasons for the facial characteristic.

    Where the contrast lays it that your friend said that an alien race tried to help with Covid whereas if my friend was right then thanks to the Chinese, they started it.
     
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    I agree with all you said.
    I have had several paranormal expirences in my life. Last one was a child in a buggy at the store. This child was maybe 2 and had undescrible look in his eyes. They were blue kinda looked thru to you. Hubby said why was that kid staring at you so intently for? Never felt the way the toddler made me feel.

    Like you say the Bible has several passages in it about flying objects. Plus hubby and his brother saw a huge saucer in S.C. as kids trhat looked exactly like the one described in Bible with lights around it like jewels. He said no description other than jewels could describe. And a powerful yet quite noise.
     
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    The only thing that makes me consider UFO's might be real are the sightings by pilots, especially military pilots. Those guys don't seem the type to make things up like that and have the experience to understand what they're seeing.
     
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    Once you identify an object as a UFO, wouldn't it no longer be a UFO but just an FO? On a more serious note, a longstanding (since learning some things in high school) axiom of mine has been "Reality goes far beyond your perception."
     
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    Anyone who has a dog and/or a cat know they sense things on a level that we cannot. And it goes far beyond enhanced 5 senses.
     
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    Watching a few most recent black and white video of so called flying objects, they look like simple flying insects with a strong light focused on them. The movements are so helter skelter they just don't look like something that would be a vehicle of any kind.
     
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  7. Dwight Ward

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    In a huge universe there is likely to be other life on other planets. With my physics background I have issues with the speed of light as a factor limiting how easily it would be to visit each other. Unless there is something like faster-than-light travel or hyperspace it would take a long time to get from star to star.
     
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    So coming from a non-physics guy...what about wormholes (if I'm using the proper term)? And didn't Einstein claim that time/space can be bent (meaning that the destination could be brought closer)?
     
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    I can't remember enough higher physics to say a lot about these extreme-state things. If by 'wormhole' you mean the combination of a white outflow of an absorbing black hole into some other part of the universe, well, my mind is boggled. I used the term 'hyperspace' to encompass those possibilities. Einstein didn't claim there was any possibility of faster than light travel even though dimensions of energy and the structure of space are closely connected. I don't feel as if I'm clarifying anything. Sorry.
    The fact that at high speeds energy applied to make something go faster makes its mass expand instead is the puzzle of a lifetime.
     
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    Actually, that DID clarify. I have no background to understand this stuff, and I take it that those who do have such a background don't really understand it, either.

    ps: It's good to see you back. You were AWOL for a bit.
     
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    Oh my @Joe Riley.....suddenly I remember that!
     
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    Good to see you, too.
     
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    I’m surprised at the number of people who don’t believe top secret military facilities exist in the U.S. where the frontiers of physics are being explored, including UFOs, but the results aren’t made public. This includes methods to overcome gravity and fold space that would allow long distance space travel in a short period of time. The quantum physics of today is far advanced from the physics most of us grew up with. NASA is the civilian government branch of aerospace and shares much of its information with the public. Area 51 and other top secret facilities are military and they don't share their advances with the public, ostensibly for national security reasons.
     
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  14. John Brunner

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    But since the advances aren't made public, then the subjects of overcoming gravity and bending space or whatever else they may (or may not) be doing are all conjecture on our part. It's a blank slate that we can project anything on to that we wish...and that may be intentional.
     
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  15. Dwight Ward

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    It's a given that 'top secret' anything is the exclusive purview of the military. As I indicated in a previous conversation with John Brunner I've come to no definite conclusions about UFOs or faster than light travel or the like, but we can assume 'they' know more than we ever will. Granted that the tech they have is beyond anything we can know, I wonder if World War 3 will be like anything we can imagine.
     
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