Vitamin C And Tackling Tumors

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  1. Joy Martin

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    More health info for ALL you non believers in good natural health and being your own healer. Patient Heal Thyself... And if thousands/millions were taking Vit C and Vit D they would be alive today from all this covid fear. AKA A tough cold.....

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...cid=20220807_HL2&mid=DM1232374&rid=1569850726

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    • Examples of holistic therapies used for cancer include vitamin C alone and in combination with Artesunate (a malaria medication) and/or hyperthermia, curcumin, melatonin and mistletoe
    • One key point to be made about holistic oncology is that the earlier you start this kind of treatment, the better. Most patients who seek alternative strategies have already done tremendous damage to their bodies with one or more rounds of chemo, which makes natural remedies less capable of achieving complete healing
    • Whole food vitamin C and IV vitamin C serve two different functions. Whole food vitamin C is not suitable for the treatment of cancer, but does wonders for general health support, whereas high-dose vitamin C with sodium ascorbate has powerful drug-like effects suitable for acute and severe infections and cancers
    • Vitamin C has a wide variety of precision effects, which can be generally classified into genomic, epigenomic, transcriptomic, proteomic, metabolomic and immunomodulatomic effects
    • Vitamin C is typically thought of as an antioxidant, which is true orally and at lower doses, but in high doses, it becomes a pro-oxidant, and that’s actually what allows it to kill cancer cells and gives it its significant antiviral and antibacterial properties
    In this interview, Dr. Nathan Goodyear discusses the benefits of vitamin C in cancer treatment. We are both scheduled speakers at the Vitamin C International Consortium Institute’s annual conference in Tampa, Florida, September 9 and 10, 2022.

    Goodyear started out as a gynecologist and pelvic floor surgeon. Once out of residency, however, he noticed that a lot of what he’d been taught in medical school didn’t work. Then, in 2006, he developed pheochromocytoma, a rare type of tumor that develops in the adrenal gland, causing it to excrete high amounts of norepinephrine, which in turn causes extremely high blood pressure and heart rate.

    Holistic Oncology
    That experience pushed him to make the transition into the field of cancer. The last five and a half years, he’s been working with Brio-Medical, a holistic cancer clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona, of which the last six months he has served as medical director. He works with four other physicians — two medical doctors and two naturopathic physicians.

    “The conventional approach seems to follow the logic ‘destroy to heal,’ and I just don't know where that really occurs in nature outside conventional cancer treatment. Healing has to be your focus and goal to achieve healing. You have to heal to heal. Our healing strategy focus in cancer is to tap into the body’s designed capacity to heal itself through the targeting of the root causes,” Goodyear says.

    “When you look at holistic natural therapies, there's this assumption by many, including conventional medicine, that we are just throwing darts up on the wall and hope they stick.


    But in actuality, we're following the science of genomics, epigenomics, transcriptomics, metabolomics and immunomodulomics. This is the future of medicine that's here now, and we're being incredibly specific and targeted for the dysfunction within the cancer, but with natural holistic or integrated therapy.”

    Examples of Holistic Therapies for Cancer
    Examples of holistic therapies used for cancer include vitamin C in combination with artemisinin or artesunate (a primary malaria medication). This combo is very good for prostate and breast cancer in particular. Curcumin and melatonin both also have significant anticancer effects. Goodyear likes to combine hyperthermia with high-dose vitamin C and curcumin.

    “Studies have shown that when you give vitamin C with whole body hyperthermia, you actually achieve a higher plasma ascorbic acid concentration. So that's going to impact the fight against cancer more,” he explains.

    Mistletoe is another excellent cancer treatment. I’ve previously interviewed Dr. Nasha Winters about the use of mistletoe in oncology, so for more in-depth information, see that interview.

    One key point to be made about holistic oncology is that the earlier you start this kind of treatment, the better. Unfortunately, most patient who seek alternative strategies have already done tremendous damage to their bodies, particularly the immune system, with one, two or even three rounds of chemo, which really impairs your body’s ability to heal naturally.
     
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    On Vit C and D and my grape seed extract which I take faithfully daily for years, I have NOT a had cold,or flu, virus in well over 20 yrs. And touched NONE of the covid so called remedies.....yes so called...

    by so called I mean the jabs and masks as far as the others I've done none as I've been healthy, no issues.


    Most days I take close to 2K Vit C and then of course the Grape Seed Ex is 50 times more powerful than Vit C.
     
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    Are you starting a discussion or just copy/pasting information from various online websites, @Joy Martin ? It is hard to tell what part of this we are supposed to be discussing the pros and cons of because it looks more like just posting website links than an actual discussion thread.
     
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    It's about the value of Vit C and in this case tumors. I feel strongly about Vit C in all my health and this is more on cancer and tumors. As I have said Grape Seed Ex is even 50 times more powerful than Vit C and when I started taking G.S.E. we were informed at the lecture on it, "it MAY prevent cancers".....this is MAIN reason I got with it. They are antioxidants and I believe anti cancer fighting.

    Yes there is posting Dr. Mercola info and a lot of my own personal experience with C et al....

    As far as which part you need to be looking at, it's all important.

    I get a feeling that some here feel a consternation on my info and if that's the
    case, don't read my stuff. Simple...
     
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    That's good.
    If people followed advice from others who remained healthy without succumbing to the sickness industry,
    those people could learn to stay healthy also - nationwide and worldwide.
    Hospitals have now been set up in a few countries , or more, using natural healing methods, very successfully without side effects ----
    for example, people who use/used vitamin c during something as bad as chemo/toxic treatments
    may avoid all of the side effects of the toxins,
    and when recovered it may well be the c that is the effective agent, not the toxins, as proven for millions of people but
    verboten to the officialdumb system.
     
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    No, it's not that at all. It's just that this is a discussion forum and not a portal of links to other websites. While links are used to refer people to sources or additional information, most people don't click on them unless their interest is piqued, and this usually occurs only through discussion and, even then, not until people have gotten to know you well enough to value your opinion. To simply quote from a website, and provide a link to that website, is not a discussion, nor does it qualify as content. Threads that consist only of quotes and links are eventually deleted unless they lead to further discussion, as might be the case with a news item.

    I'm not at all averse to vitamins and supplements. I take some of them, including Vitamin C, and I bought a couple of bottles of grapeseed extract once, although I didn't reorder because I wasn't persuaded that it was helpful. I don't remember for sure now, but I think I tried the grapeseed stuff when Yvonne brought it up in a thread. I think it was her, anyhow. Although it may have been someone else, it was someone whose opinions I had come to respect enough to give it a try. But she (or whoever it was) brought it up in a conversation in a thread that had more content than quotes and links. Then, I was interested enough to seek more information online.

    Pretty much anything can be discussed here. I don't care if you believe that the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth. You can argue that our government is under the control of reptilians, and I might even entertain that one. You can insist that Joe Biden is not demented without getting in any trouble here, although I might laugh at that one. I don't even care if you think our elections are honest, although that stretches the imagination. With few exceptions, we don't strictly regulate content here.

    But there has to be content, and most of that content should come from the person who is posting it. You bring this stuff up a lot, so it clearly resonates with you. That being the case, you should be able to make your own arguments rather than relying on third-party websites to do that for you. They read more like ads than an invitation to a discussion. I'd rather hear what you have to say than what Dr. Mercola has to say. If he's over 50, he can join the forum and make his own arguments. Anyone likely to be interested in Vitamin C or grapeseed extract has probably already done a search for information online, so personal experiences are more valuable than online experts.

    Sometimes I wonder whether the forum would be more interesting if we didn't allow linking.
     
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    Just think of all the drug companies and hospitals and doctors business and how much
    less they would make in profits if people knew more about holistic healing. Thinking about my mom who was put thru a massive amount of drugs and radiation for some cancer she had and how her little body was so wracked and if she had a doc who knew about Vit C and I've even wondered if she had cancer and it was bleeding hems....and the docs took advantage of her, how dare I think like that. She was maybe 80 at the time and I lived 3000 miles away and she had no advocate.

    I got involved with a lot of much older people when I got back to bridge after retirement....most were older than me and a couple new people would join who were younger than me...we were always inviting the younger bridge players to get involved as the old folks do die. One dear great bridge player friend died at 95 and her heart just quit but she was taking Grape Seed Ex for some years when I was telling the ladies of how great it is. 3 ladies that I was prompting them to take it, just didn't get with it and they have died, one primarily from diabetes and heart and one from cancer that was
    being treated and the other one, she was just not healthy looking ever. Several of us from the old group are still alive and swear by Grape Seed.. One friend just called me the other day and asking for a new source as the one she was buying from Costco is out of stock. She's 89 and I gave her info on another brand.
     
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    How dare the system prevent people from verifying, from thinking like that, from finding the truth. It is published variously the last hundred years that thousands or tens of thousands of lawsuits have happened AFTER women found out they did not have cancer, but they already had the disfiguring operation/s/ or expensive toxic treatments. As many /or more/ as FIFTY PERCENT / cancer diagnosis-test results are FALSE. And the reliable natural ways of testing are inexpensive and easier and non-toxic and actually helpful...

    I find it not a good idea to think about those things - the ginormous profits, from misleading the politicians and the public.... and the excuses 'they' give for those profits - that they are 'just servants' of the gigantic corporations and are responsible to the stock holders for more profits, NOT for healing anyone.

    Likewise over the decades, it breaks my heart over and over to see people succumb to the diseases even after hearing how to overcome them simply and inexpensively with the right medical care. Many had the choice re cancr or heart problems to be cured to get worse, and the ones who chose to be cured got cured, and the ones who refused to try had a heart attack within a year or so, or worse.
     
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