Big Fat Lies About Saturated And Unsatured Fats

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    All true, @Joy Martin and the fight against fat is, in large part, responsible for the dramatic uptick in diabetes and obesity. Of course, the increased sedentary lifestyles that have taken hold are also to blame, but the increased sugar and other simple carbs in everything we eat is what I blame.
     
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    And I believe the uptick in dementia, dishing out statins like candy to cut fats, the brain needs good fats.
     
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    Statins are NOT Wonder Drugs................

    https://expose-news.com/2023/11/10/...me/?cmid=50cb66a1-b7f8-4cf6-81a7-40165d3ddbaa


    The myth that lowering cholesterol with statins prevents heart attacks and strokes is still widespread in modern medicine. This is in spite of the fact that there has never been a consistent relationship between lowering LDL (so called “bad” cholesterol), heart attack, stroke, and death. The “lower the better” mantra often parroted by the “experts” is just not tenable or evidence based.

    by Simon Lee, Science Officer, Anew UK

    The Gravy Train.
    “Statins lower LDL, but they do not change outcomes in any significant fashion.” Dr. Jack Wolfson (cardiologist)

    The statin industry generates 20 billion a year and has caused life-threatening nutrient deficiency in millions of otherwise healthy people. There has been active discouragement to publish any negative studies on the effects of statins by those aboard the lucrative statin gravy train.

    In the U.S. alone, 40 million adults take statins, despite the questionable effectiveness and safety they are still being recommended for many people. The use of lucrative statins doubled among U.S. adults from 2000 to 2011 in the false belief that they reduce heart disease risk.

    Cholesterol is still largely vilified, and statin use is still heavily promoted. In spite of “target” cholesterol levels having been achieved, a systemic review by DuBroff et al published in BMJ Evidence-Based Medicine stated:
     
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    I have read studies where stains slightly lowered the death rate from cardiac disease, but I think that is due mostly to the anti-inflammatory properties of the drugs, and have nothing at all to do with cholesterol of any kind. In fact he "all-cause" death rate for those on stains is actually higher than for those not taking the drugs, so any benefit derived from statins is apparently overridden by the side effect from the statins. It was probably the overall biggest earner for the drug companies except for the brief uptick in Covid vaccine sales.
     
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    I agree with most of that. Cholesterol is a necessary nutrient/ pre-hormone. Early studies found cholesterol in the arterial plaque, and therefore had to be the cause. Of course, calcium is also found there but for some reason is not part of the dietary problem. You may know the methionine: pyridoxine ratio theory that appear to me to be a valid theory is totally discounted, as nobody makes money if that is true.
     
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    At my age and with my health history, the least of my worries is saturated fat. I eat whatever I please and I enjoy it. I'm not taking any statins; I've been resisting them for over 20 years and so far, so good.
     
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    Calcium supplements are most of the problem. But (of course) they are a big money maker, so there will be little mention of them.
    Advertising campaigns convinced women to take them to avoid osteoporosis. Fear sells. Not just vaccines.
    Dr. Oz - a cardiologist - (and other highly-paid doctors & celebrities) told everyone to take them.
    Then, Dr. Oz apologized on his show, admitting they cause arterial blockages are are responsible for many heart attacks & strokes.
     
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    When the original work was done, calcium supplements were not and issue, but people drank a lot more milk as adults. Calcium is a necessary nutrient just like many others, but if you are deficient in vitamin K2 (fairly recent discovery) calcium doesn't know where to go and often ends up in the wrong places. Dr. Oz is a cardiovascular surgeon, not a cardiologist, which is a subspecialty of internal medicine, but he does deal with the heart and makes most of his money in medicine from coronary artery blockages. I originally hated Oz, as he was a big fan and friend of Oprah, who I think is the biggest phony in the media, but I grew to appreciate some of his viewpoints when I was laid up watching TV. His good points are that he is open to alternatives to conventional medicine, including nutritional remedies. His downside is that he sometimes leads people down the wrong path, either through insufficient research on his part or the fact that sufficient research hasn't been done by professional researchers--he is a surgeon, not a researcher.
     
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    Yes, & all vegetables are high in K - especally green ones. It's interesting that supplements are often recommended before foods are.
    Dr. Oz promotes anything he's paid to promote - whether or not it has benefits. He devoted an entire hour of his show to promote Green Coffee Extract for weight loss. He had fake models on the show who claimed they lost lots of weight. The manufacturer (of course) knew what that would do for sales, so they paid him a fortune.
     
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    Well, K2 is different from K1 although it is generally derived from K1 that is manufactured by the gut microbiome from green leafy veggies.
     
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    Sugar, the bliss factor, has been extensively studied to cause humans to eat more. We are basically addicted to it. Highly processed foods contain high amounts of sugar and what I consider to be bad fats. Very enticing.
    I went on a healthy keto diet and lost 35 lbs without much difficulty and kept it off even though I am old.:rolleyes: and rather sedentary. I do a lot of supplements after research and can still load and unload 50lb bags of feed, even if on one leg. My blood pressure is higher than when I was 20 but not fatally.
     
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