If You Had To Move To Another Country, Which Would You Choose And Why?

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  1. Mary Stetler

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    I agree.
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    I have seen all sorts of videos about building tiny houses out of cob. If we were forced to leave for some reason, the gov't will eventually have control of all our assets And we would need to make a house if we could not buy one. Think homeless. Not sure our tired and poor (and old) would be welcome in another country without assets. (except maybe in Martin Alonzo's yard.:rolleyes:)
    World governments are all trying to get control of citizenry. How would we be better off elsewhere?
    I have plenty of cob making material here. Might have to run down to our livestock auction to get another cow, But hey!...
     
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    Security can be a double edge sword. Only when you are ready to loose everything you find freedom.
     
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  3. Marie Mallery

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    Since America seems to be basically no more, what nation would you go to?

    I'd go to the north Finland or Sweden. Only if I could take my kids, grandkids with me, actually that is the only reason I'd leave at this age and point in my life.
    Jake makes jokes about how tall the Norse Franks are, and how being 5.4 I'd be a dwarf to them. I wouldn't care long as I was warm.
    North Alaska may be another choice.
    People in these places don't have time to commit too many crimes, too busy surviving the cold,:D
     
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    @Marie Mallery I think you said in a previous post how you hate the cold. Finland and Sweden are lining up to be targets in the coming war. Living in the North requires a lot of energy. Living in the south is much easier. I have lived both places and, as the number of snowbirds testify, living in a warmer climate is much easier. I think @Martin Alonzo likes it in the Dominican Republic. He seems to be pretty free there. One of the Republican congressmen is proposing a Constitutional amendment to guarantee that Americans can garden and raise their own food. The fact that someone thinks this is necessary is frightening in and of itself. If we hadn't entered WWII, we might still be a free people, and Europe could be run by Communists as many want.
     
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  5. Jacob Petersheim

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    I think you need to look really hard first.

    Some places that appear more idyllic may function under a monoculture (effectively all distant relatives) with a heavy cultural/legal fist of a ruling elite enforcing options and choices in life. A sort of modern feudalism.

    If you fit the desired profile, falling in line with the herd might be easy. Keep your head down eating what they feed you and say "moo" on cue.

    The last I heard Alaska was part of the U.S. :p but I take your point.

    But there are reasons why Canada's prairie provinces have faced wave after wave of dissent and expressed a desire to secede and apply to the U.S. for possible annexation. Has this ever been a real thing? Probably not. More of a bargaining point if anything I'd guess.
     
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  6. Marie Mallery

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    Don I would never go anywhere for myself, it would be to get my family out of this falling republic. Old as I am now, no way would I leave for myself, of course iin hindsight, I wish I'd had my family somewhere closer to the Northern hemisphere.
    Like you said, it takes lots of energy and hard work to liver there, so most criminals would not live there, too much work.
    Also, I don't think the people would put up with it since they still have pride in who they are and can't be shamed into submission by liberals. Or that's what I think, maybe not.

    The Bible says " come out from among them, least you receive of their plaques".
    America is now a mixture of Babel and Sodom and Gomorrah.
     
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  7. Marie Mallery

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    Just thinking, no way would my grown kids or their spouses ever leave their homeland,' like their ancestors did' for a better life.
    Jacob, I'm not that much on the turnip truck, I do know Alaska is part of America even know when it happened. :p
    I've seen some present videos of one of the places, from watching a Swedish couple for past few years, plus studying the areas.
     
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    Sorry, it wasn't my intent to come off as condescending or suggest you haven't studied the question or don't know your own mind.

    I just think we have a lot going for us in the US. More evidence of that is how many people try pretty desperately to come here. I think it can also be easy to fall prey to the media constantly beating the drum to prod us to hate our own country. Even when we're aware of the propaganda the constant deluge can take a toll.
     
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  9. Don Alaska

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    Canada's prairie provinces have been very unhappy about recent gun law changes there. That may be why they want to join the U.S. Just like here, Canada's laws are written as if the entire nation was like Ottawa and Toronto. My friend in B.C was always having to defend his farm from bears, cougars, and such. (I know B.C. is not a prairie province but the idea applies). We had the 9th and 10th amendments, but the SCOTUS did away with the effect of those some time ago so we suffer much of the same issues.
     
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    I have a longtime friend who retired to the Panama area with her husband about 10 years ago, to get into a warmer climate and out of the Washington State snow. She is extremely happy there, and enjoys her life very much, and also the people who live near her. Edie says the temperature is right around 70 year around, there are places she likes to shop, and to go out for dinner.
    She said there are a lot of other Americans living in the area where she is at, so they have a good community of people from America.
    I would not want to move away from my family, but the picture that she sent me sure looks like a nice place to live. This is her home and her view out over the canyon. She did say she has to have a tall and tight fence to keep out snakes and large wild cats. (Cougar ?, panther?)


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    and jaguar....:)
     
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    I've looked at a lot of material on the lives of two branches of my ancestry. Not only books written by 3rd parties but also personal journals.

    A running theme is that emigration to the US wasn't merely a choice. There were changes going on in Europe during the 18th and early 19th centuries. Changes, much of it agricultural mechanization, that demanded changes in the commercial feudalism that had developed earlier as global trade began to open up.

    Many people outside the urban centers became a liability, excess population, where before they were the foundation of the system. The disposable grindstones of the mill.

    Governments, industry, and churches joined hands to advertise, offer, subsidize, and mediate mass emigration to the Americas and elsewhere. All in the name of a huge wave of what today we'd probably call gentrification, and don't fool yourself: eugenics was a conscious part of this. "Undesirable" bloodlines were intentionally diminished via emigration.

    Yes, it is probably glamorous to imagine steely-eyed ancestors rolling up their sleeves with an axe in one hand and a hoe in the other arriving in hand-built craft they braved the oceans with. The reality? Not so much.

    I remember one diary of a first-generation US-born daughter of Dutch immigrants. She wrote that by adopting the dress of the English and suppressing their native tongue and their accented English... for the first time in generations they found themselves treated as "white."
     
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  13. Marie Mallery

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    I don't think it is to hate our country, more so than to totally change it.And it is working!

    I can still remember when it was safe to walk the streets of my hometown, catch a bus to the theatre and the last bus home at midnight as kids, I wouldn't even drive down the same streets today.
    Looks at some old films of the streets in America of the 50s and 60s. People were not only civilized but also dressed that way.
    Then the democrats and Marxist took over our political and legal systems.
     
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    Well ... I'm not leaving the country. Where would you go, really, to have it better?

    Not to mention that one probably wouldn't have the same rights in foreign countries. It would be a lot of work to settle elsewhere.
     
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    When we were in Sheridan, Wyoming, it was very safe and quite there. Of course, Sheridan isn't a big city and the surrounding areas are ranches. We did see some younger folks, at a local steakhouse, with tattoos on their arms. We don't know if they were tourists, because Sheridan does get its fair share of tourism, or they got the tattoos somewhere else and now live in Sheridan. There are a few tattoo parlors in Sheridan, which really, really surprised us.

    Bottom Line is: Not all of America is uncivilized and full of crime! Actually, nobody can say that, unless they've visited every city/town in America.
     
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