Trump 47 Builds His Cabinet And His Administration

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  1. John Brunner

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    I think a few folks put in their 2¢ worth starting here. Apparently the guy is VERY wealthy and has his own podcast. Some speculate he just didn't need the B.S. and could do more damage without being boxed in by the AG position (although that begs the question as to why he became a Congress critter to begin with and has not done damage yet.)

    I don't know what to think.
    -He's a politician, and "scum" is part of the territory.
    -His accusers are politicians, and "scum" is part of the territory.

    The investigation was a couple of years old and no charges were brought. One would think if they declined to charge a Republican, there's not much meat on the bones. But he is a politician. And he's got that slick Joel Olsteen look.
     
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    I think some enemy of Gaetz just accused him of something from back in the days of yore, a bit like what went on with Kavanaugh. It was reportedly investigated and found to be baseless, much like many of the accusations against Trump. He said he just didn't want to be a distraction for the process; I believe him for that.
     
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    One of the talking heads was playing recordings of "It's his private life!" from the Clinton rape era.
     
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    Gaetz isn't stupid. I think he has a plan. I don't know what it is, but I suspect he does.
     
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    Oh Lord, talk about scum. Thanks for the feedback. I thought it was also interesting some of the ideas the Fox had about other positions he may prefer, where he doesn't have to be confirmed by the Senate. I'm super concerned about the Senate, and the House even though we have the majority. There always seems to be some ass that wants to throw their weight around and hold things up, or literally destroy them. Humanity, bah humbug :(
     
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    I lean towards this as well. I don't know him that well, so yeah, it should be interesting ;)
     
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    Now that I got all this info from you guys, Gaetz reminds me of Trump ;) I didn't know he was wealthy, kind of struck me as a young punk, same as Trump. James Dean fan here :rolleyes:
     
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    This Gaetz thing is generating some really strange (and interesting) opinions.

    -In this article, Dana Loesch (radio host) claims that Trump knew what was going to happen and he nominated Gaetz because Trump wanted him gone. She did not say why Trump wanted the guy gone.
    -One commenter said that the nomination was done to let Gaetz resign and avoid the investigation. This makes no sense, since the guy just ran for reelection so as to put himself in front of that train again.
    -The most intriguing opinion states that Gaetz can be sworn in when the next session of Congress convenes, since he resigned the seat during this session, but won reelection. I have no idea what the regulations on this state. And Gaetz was talking about having his replacement in place for when the new session started. Those things do not reconcile.
     
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    Do you still use the RSS Feed thing John? I never did figure that out, and not sure people still use it. I'd love getting more alerts, from some news sources, but I do subscribe to Fox, but had to stop the "push notifications" too darn many of them.

    I don't think that sounds like Trump, but like I mentioned before, he's learned more things. This all sounds kind of good to me since I believe it's high time we fight fire with fire, but still legally. I don't want us to ever stoop to the level the "swamp" has. I see much of what they've done as treason, but I honestly don't know the exact definition of the word.
     
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    I know what they are, but I've never used them or subscribed to "Push" notifications. I don't need (or want) to be annoyed to that degree.
     
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    The big problem with having Thune in charge of the Senate is that, while he may not be actively working against the Trump agenda, he is unlikely to advance it. We don't really have a 53-member majority in the Senate when you consider that Collins and Murkowski will be actively working against the Trump agenda. I understand both made it clear that they would not vote to confirm Gaetz, and Thune refused to rally senators to confirm him.
     
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    Must'a mistook you for someone else ;)
     
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    I have seen a new conspiracy surrounding Gaetz, the validity of which I can't say. The new theory is that Trump knew that Gaetz would raise a firestorm, so most of the uproar around his cabinet selections would center on him. When Gaetz removed his name form nomination, Trump's enemies would count it as a win and be more likely to confirm the remainder of his cabinet nominations. After the nominations are through, Gaetz can be appointed as the Attorney General's Chief-of-Staff or some other point that doesn't require Senate confirmation. If true, Gaetz would be the workhorse of the Justice Department without the hassle. I don't know if Trump is that devious though. He seems more willing to confront his enemies.
     
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    I do not think that Trump is devious, but he did write The Art of the Deal, and knows how to set these things up to get what he wants.
    If you offer first something that you know is not going to be accepted, then whatever you negotiate from there is easier for the other side to accept.
    Just like if we are going to sell a car, horse, or whatever, we set the asking price a little high, and the buyer makes the offer a little low, and you come together somewhere in the middle, and both get a satisfactory deal.

    Also, this showed him exactly where his opposition would be coming from, and these senators now all know that if they do not play nice, they are going to be primaried out when they come up for re-election.
    They probably had all these steps worked out beforehand.
     
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    Trump is dealing with some very bad people. So maybe he is fighting fire with fire, so to speak.
    Don I think your take on this makes a whole lot of sense, never thought of it like that.:)
     
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