Analgesic Creams

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  1. Hal Pollner

    Hal Pollner Veteran Member
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    I have Lower Back pain, and now I have a Shoulder pain and a Knee pain.

    It all started this year, after turning 84. I can't do strenuous exercises now...only the Treadmill.

    I've been using Ben Gay and Icy-Hot, but they don't relieve the pain, they just give the psychological impression that they do.

    I wait a few days and the pain subsides, then disappears, except the back is permanent.

    H.P.
     
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    Man, I fell so bad about your back. All that exercise should have provided a degree of prevention; of course, it may have stopped things from being worse, huh?

    So what about over-the-counter NSAIDS...Ibuprofen, aspiring, naproxen sodium, etc?

    You know, another thing people use for joint pain is turmeric supplements. I've read that this can have side effects in some people, but only after extensive (8+ months) use. I was going to start taking it as a general anti-inflammatory, but deferred the decision because I'm scheduled for some procedures and was concerned over it's blood thinning properties.

    I spoke with one guy not long ago who got off his rheumatoid arthritis meds when he started supplementing with it. I've not read anything about it's efficacy in relieving muscle pain.

    Regarding creams: I suspect they make things feel better because getting a massage is the delivery system.
     
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    Search chicken cartilage and arthritic you will come across a study from Harvard Health which showed very quick relief of pain. Chicken cartilage can now be purchased from Harvard because they patent it for that use. Chicken cartilage became a drug. Now pure gelatin is about the same and I have seen it work on joints and back. For faster relief DMSO topical stops pain with in minutes and last for a while. Have fun and good luck.
     
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    Give Hemp Oil a shot.
     
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    Thanks, everyone! Now I have a few alternatives to try!

    I don't want this to become a discussion panel for my aches and pains!

    Hal
     
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    Hal ... speak with your Dr and find out if he/she will prescribe Diclofenac Sodium Topical Gel.

    My husband's Dr prescribed it for him for his chronic back and knee pain. We thought 'well here goes another bunch of money' but .. pleasant surprise. It really worked.

    Big plus is that there is no odor, it is not sticky and there is no heat or cool to it. I'm not really sure why it works but it does for his problems.

    I have osteo-arthritis in my hands, shoulders and hips and it's like a miracle for those areas.

    It's worth a try .. see if you can get an RX for that .. if it doesn't work - at least you tried and maybe you will get some well deserved relief.
     
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    My long deceased auto mechanic said he used WD-40 on his sore knee and swore by it. I'm taking Tramadol for pain and am not really sure if it works. If it does it is short lasting. Any pains I get tend to subside when I get moving around. Creams seem messy to me and have to be re-applied.
     
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    I just took a look and this is available Over the Counter as a house-brand generic, or under the name of Voltaren, apparently the same concentration as the prescription version (1%). Detailed info on it here at WebMD. Lots of precautions on not using too much on one spot/in the aggregate, and the length of time it takes to start working.
     
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    I personally know that WD-40 is great for sprains.
     
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    Sprains of springs? ;)

    I have never heard of this. But it kinda smells like it should be a topical agent.

    All kidding aside, WD-40 is made of petroleum distillates.
    For that reason, there are lots of warnings out there against putting it on your skin, including but no limited to:
    • Absorption through the skin may affect the liver and kidneys
    • Contact can affect the central nervous system and cause headaches, dizziness, nausea, and loss of balance
     
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    True, but in a pinch like a sprain obtained by tripping over a root on a hiking trip, it helps.

    As a side bar, the gym we go to has a bunch of spray bottles out on the floor that is to be used to clean the equipment after use.
    I noted to several members and the staff that on the side of each bottle there is a warning about the substance coming into contact with the skin. Unless a member is wearing gloves, there is no way one can use the spray without it coming into contact with the skin several times within their workout time.
    The only thing that seemed to bring up any alarms was when I tell the men that butyl’s and methal’s have a tendency to reduce their testosterone levels but otherwise......crickets.
     
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    Pain is a symptom of a problem doctors love treating symptom because it does not cure anything. All it does is to make you feel good as your health gets worst. Some times it is good if you are getting an operation or have a tooth removed. Covering up a symptom without treating the problem is crazy. Fix the problem and you will not need pain killers. If you only make it feel good and not address the problem it will get to a point you will need stronger and stronger drugs until you are dead.
     
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    Most arthritis is caused by degeneration disc/cartilage as they degenerate the bones come in contact with the other bone causing a great deal of pain [bone on bone arthritis] to take certain pain killers only makes the problem worst but you do not feel it. A lot of these pain killers stop or slow the bodies ability to make cartilage only making the problem worst.
    https://www.researchgate.net/public...ritis_by_Nonsteroidal_Anti-inflammatory_Drugs
     
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    So you gotta spray something on the bench that says "Do Not All To Come In Contact With Skin"???

    Needs a first year law student to have a conversation.
     
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