Cops Force Everyone Present To Provide Fingerprints

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  1. Frank Sanoica

    Frank Sanoica Supreme Member
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    Unfortunately, it already has been permitted. Would it apply to plain, old cell phones, not having any capability beyond conversation?

    "In what’s believed to be an unprecedented attempt to bypass the security of Apple iPhones, or any smartphone that uses fingerprints to unlock, California’s top cops asked to enter a residence and force anyone inside to use their biometric information to open their mobile devices."

    “They want the ability to get a warrant on the assumption that they will learn more after they have a warrant,” said Marina Medvin of Medvin Law. “Essentially, they are seeking to have the ability to convince people to comply by providing their fingerprints to law enforcement under the color of law – because of the fact that they already have a warrant. They want to leverage this warrant to induce compliance by people they decide are suspects later on. This would be an unbelievably audacious abuse of power if it were permitted.”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb...erprint-seizure-to-open-iphones/#1c1132738d9d


     
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  2. Frank Sanoica

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    My answer to the above concern:

     
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  3. Frank Sanoica

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    @Chrissy Page

    You miss the point again, or don't want to consider it. Evidence obtained from "probable cause" is an arbitrary assignment of police power to assess and assign charges to the guiltless.

    At any rate, the video is hilarious!
     
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    You are on ignore.
     
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    Attention all! Truth has been evaded! I am on ignore!
    Frank
     
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    A search is a search, of a person/property, just because a person is on a property that is searched, does not mean all present can be searched, see:
    Ybarra v. Illinois (USSC)

    To add, I read the Gov.' suit listed, of course it does not mention Ybarra, gee! They are making a request basically as an Anticipatory SW.
     
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