Don't Pork Me, Says Michigan Man

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  1. Harry Havens

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    Not really sure where this should be posted, so here goes...

    Muslim man sues Little Caesars, claiming 'halal' was a lie in Dearborn

    Other news from the Detroit area...

    At Ramadan, group pushes positive images of Muslims

    Not sure what to make of those two articles side by side in the same paper, but I did google pepperoni and learned a lot more than I really wanted to know.
     
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    The definition of pepperoni includes pork.
     
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    Well now, I must disagree as pepperoni has something to do with bell peppers or something about peppers. The combination of that and salami became what is today recognized as pepperoni. There is even a vegetarian pepperoni, although I gave up researching when I ran across that word... "vegetarian"...BLECH! What is a vegetarian pepperoni... a freaking bell pepper and other veggies?

    (If any vegetarians were offended by any of the above, feel free to tell yourselves "I did not intend to offend you" over and over... until you believe it.)
     
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    My daughter-in-law does not eat pork, and she gets some pepperoni that is made with just beef. I would think that unless the pizza company specified that it was all-beef pepperoni, then the customer should have known that it was made with pork.
    I have never seen Little Caesar's offer anything except their 3-4 regular pizzas, and no specialty ones at all. I think this was done to cause problems, and not because the customer was mislead; but maybe not.
     
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    No having made pepperoni myself, I was just going from the dictionary definition:

    pep·per·o·ni
    [ˌpepəˈrōnē]
    NOUN
    1. beef and pork sausage seasoned with pepper.
     
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    Gotcha! I was going with the "etymology" and you were going with "gastroenterology". My ap ology to you!
     
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    I'm not sure what the Little Caesar's around Detroit offer. There is beef pepperoni. There is Halal beef. But is there Halal beef pepperoni? I dunno. Until a full reading of the lawsuit, etc., we likely are just beating a dead horse (which won't be on the table either).

    When my grandson was in college, he played intramural soccer with a group from Saudi Arabia. He invited them home for Thanksgiving. In addition to the turkey and fixins, I always brought old country ham. Of course they wouldn't touch it. However my grandson mentioned they loved bacon. I said that is pork. One of them smiled and stated they ate bacon and it could not possibly be pork, as they never ate pork. Of course they also mentioned that sometimes they needed a designated driver... although they did not drink alcohol. Apparently the American "fruit" juices they drank, sometimes made them feel a bit under the weather and unable to drive. By now they may be in some cave in Yemen, screaming death to hedonistic America. Who knows?
     
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    Isn't seeking $100 Million to "right" a claimed "wrong" against an individual's personal beliefs akin to violating those beliefs' stand against blasphemy?
    Frank
     
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    The news article makes it sound as if Little Caesar's advertised it as being halal, however; so that could be a problem, although I certainly wouldn't consider it to be a $100 million problem.
     
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    I am viewing someone like this individual seeking $100 Million as an Opportunist. Racked my brain to come up with that word, asked my wife, calling out the innuendos of someone trying to benefit from others' loss: she said, "Opportunist"! Perfect!

    A guy, humble beginnings, humble existence, sees and perceives possible enormous personal gain, despite any traditional history on his part of humility, "goes for it"! The lawyers love it. They, employed on both sides, will always gain, win or lose.
    Frank
     
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    When I did a search to see whether Little Caesars actually serve any kind of special ethnic/religious pizza, such as kosher or halal, I could not find any specific information, and most of the results were simply copies of the Dearborn article linked in the OP.
    However, there is a webpage just for Muslims, telling them what it is okay to eat at any chain restaurant , such as Caesars or Arby's, or whatever.
    The information on that page specifies that even the cheese used in Little Caesars pizza is non-halal; so it seems to me that if this person was a practicing Muslim, he should not have been there buying a pizza of any kind, pepperoni on not.
    Just the fact that they want to turn this into a class-action lawsuit shows that it is not just a personal issue; but that they want to make an example of Little Caesars, and probably try to force them to change their menu.

    This seems to me to be kind of like that story about the bakery not wanting to make a wedding cake for the gay couple, and being told that they had to make it. Businesses are being forced to provide food items that they do not want to provide, or vice-versa, and I do not think that they should have to do this.
    If a pizza place only wants to serve pizzas made with pork, they should be able to do that, and non-pork eaters should know not to buy a pizza there, rather than buy one and then sue the business.
    Obviously, the business should not label a product as something that it is not, either. They can make it any way they want; but it should be properly labeled. So, the issue seems to revolve around whether Little Caesars actually labeled it that way or not.
     
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