Have You Ever Had an OBE?

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  1. Billie Lane

    Billie Lane Veteran Member
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    I think some clarification needs to be made hear.
    Occult means that which is hidden not that which is demonic, magical and evil.
    People are either evil or good, it's a choice one makes as an individual.
    Astral projection is no more dark than lucid dreaming or meditation.

    i have studied the occult, comparitive religion , etc ,since a young child, and have never been involved in anything dark.
    Lucid dreaming and Astral Projection are often claimed to be related , but the relationship is greatly exaggerated.

    In lucid dreaming the Astal Body or Body of Light is slightly out of sync with the physical which results in what could be termed a dislocation of consciousness enabling dreaming.
    Dreams are a product of the subconscoius mind reviewing the experiences of the day, the past week events etc, and looking for possible solutions to problems which it prompts the conscious mind to " awaken " to.
    The subconscious mind however is visual and communicates via symbols ( many of which have personal meaning to the individual ) ,so the messages are not always understood.
    The main point is that the dreamer is in their very own, private mental space, but the Astral body is still in direct contact with the physical.

    Astral projection occurs when the body itself is asleep . the Body of Light may then seperate from the physical body completely and enter the Astral Plane.

    The Astral Plane has different levels or " layers " like an onion skin.
    The highest plane accessable to children and the pure in heart is " Heaven ", then there is " Paradise " .
    There are varying degrees of " Mental Planes " which are accessable via affinity.
    Affinity is the key here because these planes are vibrational . Like attracts like.

    These planes for the sake of convenience can be sub-divided into two main categories.
    Higher Astral Plane and Lower Astral Plane.
    One feeds the other.
    Creation originates from a series of Divine Emanations - the Astral emanations establishing eventually the world of form or " concrete reality ".
    Therefore, the Astral Plane needs a contact point with the physical - the lower astral Plane which is the exact same as the real world but more malleable, and does not conform to normal scientific laws.
    This is the part of the Astral Plane that is accessable to everyone.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  2. Jeff Tracy

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    As far as I can see nobody is saying that there is anything dark or demonic about being interested in things that are occult. There is no longer anything 'hidden' as far as study and available literature goes. I believe there is a point where almost anything can develop into an unhealthy interest especially when it involves focusing inwardly rather than outwardly. As an artist you know that outward expression is a healthy result of an inner experience or observation but to be over focused on anything purely self orientated can be negative. I do not disagree with anything you have written but I had personally reached the point where any further study of something I knew to be real was both unnecessary and pointless. For me it would have been a form of spiritual masturbation rather than a joyous relationship with life and all its beauty. All shall be revealed eventually and knowledge is always partial so I choose life in the sunshine and the astral plane can wait.
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  3. Babs Hunt

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    I'm having one right now. I was Raptured yesterday but my body is still sitting on the couch posting away on SeniorsOnly Forum. :p
     
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    Sorry to hear about the rupture :( maybe this will help ;
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  5. Julia Curtis

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    Yes,during my 1st open heart,I watched ot from up on the corner of the operating room,I think I mentioned this in a different thread.But a couple of days after the surgery whilst talking to the surgeon he asked how I was feeling and I told him about it,he confirmed everything I said and told me it was incredibly rare but he heard another of his patients 15 years before having a similar experience.He also said something will never grasp and that was that those who experience things like this have non neurotypical minds but he was also a Phycologist and switched his profession .Who knows the why of when it happens ....he sure made a good Surgeon but when he came in to check on his patients he really wanted to know how they were....rare since COVID.
     
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  6. Marie Mallery

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    Yes, I have had OBE and other paranormal experiences. I put it up here a while back in another forum.
     
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  7. Mary Stetler

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    My college roommate did and I have had some paranormal ones I've told about too.
     
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    Mary, I think more than people than admit it have. Thinking they will look foolish, and no one will believe them anyway, they don't tell their experience.
     
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  9. Andrea Lindsey

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    That's so interesting. After my last surgery (broken leg) as I was gradually waking up from four hours under, Ii watched a curtain open and there I was age six having surgery for a broken arm, curtain closed. re-opened and there I was age 18 having a tonsillectomy, and so on through all five of my relatively minor surgeries.

    I expect this particularly little home movie was triggered by someone asking me if I had ever had surgery before just before getting the anesthetic. The odd thing was that I didn't realize I had any memories at all of those early operations. I know I didn't remember standing outside my body and watching.

    I think there might be some things we don't know about what happens to our brains when we're under anesthetics.
     
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  10. Julia Curtis

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    I couldn't agree more.
     
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  11. Mary Stetler

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    I have read a few NDE books and watched some videos. This is probably the best I have seen.
     
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