Is Racial Equity Really Equity?

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  1. Bobby Cole

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    To begin with, I am confused. Of course, that’s nothing new in today’s U.S.A. because there’s a whole lot to be confused about.
    For one, what the heck is racial equity? I mean, did someone suddenly think that the Civil Rights edicts need to be further clarified? In the name of racial equity, did said rights somehow annex the Caucasian race?

    For example:
    1. Lori Lightfoot, the good mayor of Chicago is full steam ahead in support of racial equity, or at least, that is what she says she is doing.
    In a statement made this week she said that she will only give one-on-one press interviews with journalists of color. She said that white people have dominated her interviews so she will only speak to people of color from now on.

    2. Earlier this year as part of a stimulus package the Biden administration did something similar with farmers and ranchers in that only farmers and ranchers of color have received debt relief to the tune of 125% of their outstanding debts.

    I was under the impression that racial equity somehow meant that everything from education to opportunity is equal and that race nor gender nor religion were to be considered one above another but my “impression” is wrong it seems.

    I think and maybe I’m incorrect with this assumption but the Civil Rights Bill can be superseded by anyone who is farming for a particular race’s votes
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    any person of color can show preferential treatment when it comes to people of color.

    In an administration that vowed to unify the U.S. it is really the most divisive administration since the early days of Biden as a senator, Johnson as a president and maybe even more on key, G. Wallace as a governor.
     
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    Well, doing what is right cannot be accomplished by the Federal Gov nor by the laws of the USA. If children do not learn what is right when they are babies thru 8 years old, they are not likely to do what is right later in life, no matter what policit or culture or education they get. Trying to "make it happen" by force of law or government or police, breaks down families structures even more than already devastated, and creates more confusion, dissension, and injustice, I think.
     
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    Leftists always repress.

    Only in America can the party of Jim Crow have people believe that the other guys are the repressers and the aforementioned Crow Party be the white knights on horseback (well, actually, they were.) None of this has anything to do with those of us who are just living our lives. It's all meant to keep the little guys' pot stirred.

    Just like Biden's continued pronouncements that "Women hold up half the sky." (Oops. That was Chairman Mao's saying.) Uh, "Women hold up half the world." In other words, if women exercise their free will and choose vocations or make life choices in proportions different than men, there is systemic sexism afoot.
     
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    Merely saying “right” or “wrong” opens up a whole realm for interpretation when speaking of societal boundaries. People are tribal by nature and whatever is right or wrong within any aspect of tribalism are the guidelines by which people live by.
    In the case of a country where tribalism isn’t recognized, the individual rights are supposedly defined and laws set to differentiate the ethical and moral aspects and conduct within the whole of that society.

    The Constitution of the United States is fairly concise but certain clarifications did need to be made which is why the Emancipation Proclamation was important and later the Civil Rights Bill was created.

    The problem at this present time is that the Constitution AND the Civil Rights Bill are in jeopardy when one race is shown preferential treatment over another.
    It is a given that racism exists just as people wanting to go 100 MPH in a 50 MPH highway exist but the law doesn’t say that either one doesn’t exist but simply defines them as wrong and doing either is against the law. You can still be a racist but to show preference to a particular race is against the law just as you can go 100 in a 50 zone if you want to but there are supposed to be consequences.
     
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    Yes. There are consequences.

    "Amplified Bible
    For he who does wrong will be punished for his wrongdoing, and [with God] there is no partiality [no special treatment based on a person’s position in life]."
     
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    You're talking about equal application of the law. Most reasonable people agree. Again, Leftists always have been (and always will be) masters at selective enforcement.

    I worked in Federal contracting at one point in my career where you are required to award work based upon the skin color (or sometimes gender) of the business owner, although you will be told such awards are only "goals." But you can't get work if you don't hit the "goals." I already had decades of commercial purchasing under my belt when I landed in government work, and with a handful exceptions of some very small businesses, I had no idea the race or gender of any given owner. The Federal government mandates that I not only learn that piece of info, I actually conduct business based upon it. I'm not certain how that comports with "equality."

    To the extent the little guy does not mind when this stuff happens is because they have been told that the system always has been rigged and always will be rigged. So now it's "our turn." They believe that those who stand up for equality are really wanting to revert to the days where the tables get turned back the other way...because the tables are always turned one direction or another.

    And I'll restate that the highly visible examples of this--especially by "government"--are meant to provoke.

    Regarding the Constitution: I think it's been on life support for a while. Wait until the Dems get to load up the courts.
     
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    There has been a lot of discussion that "conservatives" need to focus less on govenrment and more on God. I happen to agree. And I include myself in that admonition.
     
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    Which is probably why conservatism calls for less government to start with.
    If we had less law making and more law abiding then we’d have little need for mass government and it’s bureaucratic hypocrisy.

    Generally speaking, the men and women that we the people have placed into power are in no way setting the example of excellence. Per Capita, I really believe (without proof) that we can find more race baiting, more alcohol addiction, more greed, more debauchery and more lies within the entities called our Federal and State government(s) than the rest of the entire population in the U.S. yet there is none who will have to face their constituents in a court of law nor lose their position due to an impropriety against our Constitution.

    To be back on track, a person’s Civil Rights aren’t determined by the President nor some Mayor with the worse record in it’s state’s history. It’s already a rule of law and those laws cannot be changed or skewed to meet an opposing agenda.
    To be sure, there are already several suits against the Biden administration based on racism and if someone in Chicago doesn’t sue Lori Lightfoot for her perverted sense of equality then this nation is indeed headed south.
     
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    @Bobby Cole I 100% agree that the nation at large is not anywhere near the broken behaviour of our elected officials and the race hustlers that they support. Very few of us live in the world that's presented by the media.

    Part of the intended effect is to make people so shop-worn of it that we don't want to believe it when real transgressions occur. I forget how many False Flag incidents there were last year. Universities catch someone red-handed planting a noose and then claiming victim hood, yet they still demand everyone attend diversity training as a reaction to a known lie!!! It's tough to counteract.
     
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    I believe it was the Chinese consul in San Francisco that said several years ago the would bring down the U.S. with racial and environmental regulations.
     
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