It's Official - Roe V Wade Is Overturned

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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    Married or unmarried, I never thought of abortion as a "safety net." And I have always had the same opinion on the right to choose whether I was married or single.
     
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    After decades of being told that we have to accept the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe versus Wade as the law of the land, suddenly the Supreme Court is something to be ignored or actively opposed.
     
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    The Left has zero rules that apply to them. There is no fairness. There is no universality. There is only Party.

    I want to know how our media was taken over (if it ever had integrity at all.)
     
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    As with any protest, I would like to ask each protester what they are protesting and how does it affect them personally? What rights are they being denied? What gives them the audacity to think they speak for ALL women? Let the women that this directly affects and has affected in the past make their voices the loudest, whether pro or con and all other voices are heard but of lesser validity.

    I am disgusted with the phrase, "a woman's right to choose." That would include a woman's right to kill her son, age 50, that became a criminal or maybe just a disappointment. She brought him into the world, so she has a right to take him out. Because capital punishment is anti-liberal (any punishment for that matter), the phrase is changed to "a woman's right to do with her own body what she wants." This phrase is a relief to her 50-year-old loser Berkley-educated son that is thankful his 1960s hippie mother didn't abort his sorry ass for the pain he caused her during pregnancy because abortion was illegal and mostly unsafe. He was an unwanted "love" child, raised by a commune of "far out" drugged-out Bernie types, and his time in the womb did irreparable damage to his mother's girly figure. Her main lover shunned her after she became pregnant. The bastard son should be punished instead of being elected as a senator.

    Wait a minute! A woman's right to be a prostitute is regulated by the state. There is no FEDERAL law that regulates prostitution. Nevada is the only state that has legally regulated prostitution.

    Why hasn't this woman's right TO HER OWN BODY which is being denied and criminalized by 49 states, been taken to the Supreme Court? It affects poor women mostly, the same battle cry used to attempt to validate abortion. Here is the thing. With legalized prostitution, poor women could become rich without fear of control by criminal abusive johns and drug gangs. In Nevada, even married women work as prostitutes. It is just a job. Not a career that interests me, but nonetheless gainful employment. Some high-profile Nevada prostitutes pull down $2500 a night and pay taxes on it. Talk about a "green" and renewable resource!

    So why aren't the liberal women crying loudly about this right to do with their own bodies what they wish? Their FEDERAL right to prostitution. I am curious what constitutional amendment they could twist and distort to make that case. It wouldn't be the 14th because putting a sign-out advertising sex for cash wouldn't fall under privacy. It wouldn't be the second, because the 2nd clearly states only bare arms, not legs, torsos, and breasts. However, the 2nd would apply to prostitution more accurately than the 14th applies to abortion.

    Maybe arrested prostitutes should cry to the Supreme Court that their right to PRIVACY is being violated by state laws making them criminals for doing with their OWN bodies as they please. What was once private was made public by the state. They were given a number and photographed in an unflattering orange jumpsuit. Their inability to hold on to a slippery soap bar in a communal shower was not considered under the disability act. Their right to privacy was violated. It sure looks like a denial, on several levels, of constitutional rights to me.
     
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    I have absolutely no idea who the metal head is but Billy Joe Armstrong is in the news denouncing his U.S. citizenship because of the Roe ruling and is going to move to the UK.
    In one video I saw last night there were about a half dozen people ransacking a store supposedly in protest to the ruling and they were all men.
    Sixty something people dressed in black were tearing Portland apart (again) and the move is alluded to being a protest and yes, most of them were men. (women fill out their uniforms a little differently than men which is a good way to tell whom is whom)

    Now, other than the obvious virtue signaling and also the need to steal stuff and wreck things, how does the SCOTUS ruling on Roe affect a whole bunch of men?
    I would think that when given the choice between paying out for an abortion or paying for a few prophylactics they might see some sort of logic to spending the lesser price for the night(s) of fun and frolic but nope, gotta go steal a TV or wreck someone’s business just to show the lengths they’d go to make sure their gals can have that potentially dangerous and costly abortion.
     
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    Well, you summed it up nicely. It has nothing to do with women's rights, just an incitement to destroy everything they can in the USA. Just another coup to stop those making progress to regain our stolen republic.
     
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  7. John Brunner

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    Idiots like him can say such things because they have no idea what they're giving up, as evidenced by their hysteria over a ruling that does not criminalize the behaviour, it merely moves the decision to where it belongs in our Republic...closer to the people.
     
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    I truthfully can’t see why anyone would want the Fed involved where there is little to no representation for “we the people”.
    The Supreme Court did it’s job when it judged that Roe wasn’t a Constitutionally sound law which is what ALL laws coming from the Federal Government are supposedly based upon.
    As we all know, the SCOTUS doesn’t make law but interprets a proposition as to how it stands with the Constitution of the United States.

    As it is right now, each state has made it’s own decrees but as it is with all state laws, it doesn’t have to end that way. State laws can be changed by a simple vote based on the way the proposed laws or the proposed revocation of those laws are written, the way the laws or propositions are represented and how the majority votes.
    In all actuality, the U.S.as a whole is a Constitutional Republic whereas each state enjoys it’s own sovereignty and stands closer to being individual democracies than the whole does.

    And as an aside, I would much rather try to make my voice heard among Alabama’s 5 million people than America’s 330 million.
     
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    Because that's how corrupt people get to lord over all of us.
     
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    In anticipation of women flocking to the state to get abortions, New York's Attorney General (Letitia James) has demanded that Google scrub crisis pregnancy centers from its search results. Apparently such places may not provide abortions, so their inclusion in these search results falls under the umbrella of "misinformation." She wants Google to direct people to care that is "real and safe." She did not explain what is "unsafe" about a place that provides counseling services.

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    That is the pro-abortion wing of the Democratic party speaking. New York was something of a "destination" for such things prior to Roe v. Wade.
     
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    It's disgusting. This drive to deny alternatives is evil.
     
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  13. John Brunner

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    New York Post
    July 4, 2022

    Woke employee who refused to work while ‘mourning’
    Roe v. Wade fired


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    The headline explains it all.

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    From the story

    Lopez then went on to explain that each Friday “one of my tasks was to process reports for upcoming releases” and then to email his work to 275 people. But instead of doing the usual process reports, he wrote an email that read: “I didn’t do them today.

    I’m in mourning due to the attack on people with uteruses in the US. Federally guaranteed access to abortion is gone,” the email continued.
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    I wonder if Betty Friedman is going to change the name of her group to National Organization of People With Uteri. It doesn't sound very inclusive.
     
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    Voters in Kansas defeated a ballot measure to add a pro-life amendment to the state's constitution. In 2019, The Kansas Supreme Court had ruled that such a right did exist. This is the first state vote on the issue since SCOTUS overturned Roe.

    The proposed amendment said “because Kansans value both women and children, the constitution of the state of Kansas does not require government funding of abortion and does not create or secure a right to abortion." With 96% of the vote in, the margin was 58.8%/41.2%

    Most reasonable people are stating that this is merely a vote to not elevate this issue to the level of constitutionality. Current Kansas law allows abortions up to 22 weeks of pregnancy with some restrictions, such as a 24-hour waiting period and parental consent requirements for minors.

    One article I read says there was lots of out-of-state "pro-abortion money" pushing lies about the amendment, but it did not get specific on what those lies were. Nor did it talk about the presence (or lack thereof) of influence on the other side of the issue.
     
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  15. Beth Gallagher

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    Good for them. It seemed to me that the wording of that amendment was deliberately obtuse on the ballot. A "yes" vote for it was actually against it or something. (I've slept since I read the article but whatever.)
     
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