Maui Conspiracies

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    There is already a thread about the Maui fires in the News Section, but I'm hearing a lot of conspiracies surrounding this one. I don't have the time to hunt them up right now, but I'm sure some of you have been following them.

    One is that there are strong disagreements from many of the locals over whether the school was actually dismissed on the day of the fire. Some of them say that the kids were in school but that they have disappeared, the number ranging from a couple of hundred to more than a thousand. Were they killed during the fire? Were they lost in a shuffle of relocation? Were they murdered? Were they sex trafficked? They even have a school closure document that lists a different day for the school closure.

    Along the same lines as the disappearance of the children, more than twenty school buses have disappeared from the school bus parking lot, which was not burned during the fire. The remaining buses are still in good shape. There are pictures of the school bus parking lot immediately before the fire, which shows the buses there. One argument is that the buses were commandeered to move people out of danger, but people weren't moved out of the way of danger, leading to another conspiracy.

    The only paved road out of town, and the best route to safety, was blocked by the police, who turned people around back into the fire and wouldn't allow people through to safety. Those who made it out through that route were those who resisted the police stationed there and ran the blockade or who went around the blockade. Those who made it out safely were those who resisted police authority.

    John Pelletier, the police chief, was the same guy who headed the response to the 2017 Las Vegas, Nevada massacre, and there were conspiracy theories surrounding that one, as well. This is something we've seen before, where central figures in one conspiracy later turn up as central figures in another, suggesting that their actual role might be in furthering a conspiracy. Or it could be a simple matter of coincidence.

    Given that the MSM wants to move on from Maui, it is likely that this will continue to be one of those things, like 9/11 and the Kennedy Assassination, where we are left knowing that we didn't get the true story behind it, but we'll never know what the true story was.

    There are other problematic things relating to the Maui fires, as well. Something about a green light, like a laser, that was seen from satellite views immediately before the fires broke out. There is one place where two cars were totally incinerated in a vacant lot, to the point where the engine blocks melted, while none of the houses. - and even the grass - surrounding that vacant lot was touched.

    Now, I have been a fireman as well as a paramedic, and I know that weird things do occur in fires, or at least things that only the experts can figure out, and sometimes not even then, but this might fit with the idea that the fires were set with some kind of a space laser weapon.

    The response, like in many other conspiracy theories, plays right into the theories. Rather than doing the reasonable thing, which would be collecting funds to help these people rebuild their homes and their lives as much as they can, the governor of Hawaii wants to take the land by public domain. Wealthy non-Hawaiian people who own land in Maui are collecting money not to go into direct relief for the people affected but for other projects having to do with land that isn't there's to make decisions for. I've heard that Bill Gates wants to build a "smart village" there, but not one that would be owned by the current landowners. Everyone seems to want to shut them out and shut them up.

    Okay, this is a start. See how it's possible to post about things that are going on without simply posting links to someone else's stuff. Links are okay, and you can add them if you want, but anyone who's interested can easily find this stuff, and those who aren't interested probably aren't going to click on them or watch the videos anyhow.
     
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    I understood that the schools were released and the kids were home without many parents and the parents were forbidden from going in to get their kids. I know a similar thing happened in a fire here a number of years ago. And guys being to two disasters... I seem to recall the person in charge of the investigation of Flight 800 of Long Island in the 1990s wa the same guy who was in charge of New York City security on 9/11/2001.
     
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    I don’t know all the details but it has been said that Oprah had fire preparedness measures put in place for her home the day before the fire started.

    To be sure, there are a lot of negative statements surrounding Oprah recently which include her and “the Rock’s” televised plea for donations to help the residents who were burned out but to what extent any of the accusations are true is something left to those who really know.
     
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    I’m interested in this topic but I don’t know enough about Hawaii, their weather conditions, their housing conditions, local politics that affect fire and safety, land use, etc. to comment intelligently. That’s where links and videos become useful to topics, IMO.

    Some of the conspiracies mentioned seem to be just that, conspiracies, but who knows. I wouldn’t have believed our military could lose an F-35 until it happened either so maybe Maui could lose 20 school buses and enough children to occupy them.
     
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    Yeaah, Oprah isn't thought of highly be Hawaiians as far as I know. They think she is trying to take over large parts of the islands, especially Maui.
     
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    Might be something the VP knows more about.
    She has this thing about yellow school buses.
     
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    Apparently the victims of the Maui wild fires are being again victimized, this time by the Federal government according to this source. The Feds are reportedly keeping everyone--including residents and the insurance companies--out of the burned area. If true, this smells badly of conspiracy, since many of the residents have mortgages that must be paid to maintain their titles and avoid foreclosure, but the insurance companies won't pay on the damages until they can inspect the properties.

    This appears to perhaps be a scam to obtain property that the owners refused to sell on the cheap from the banks after foreclosure. Many people, including Oprah Winfrey, have been trying for years to get many resident to sell. Maybe this is a way to get the land the owners won't sell.

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