No "m" Or "f" Are Now Required On U.s. Passports For Gender

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  1. Hugh Manely

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    Male or Female or IT ..covers anything other than male or female.
     
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    Ever heard of the guy who filled out a job application and when he came to the part asking sex he put down twice?
     
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    Just another facet of eradicating anything we know to be true. Then they can [continue to] substitute their own reality.

    There is an article "Recommended by Pocket" titled "These nonbinary patients were seeking trans health care. but..." So are the analog or what?
     
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    Way to go ED. ;)
     
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    If they had never asked for gender on passports in the first place, it wouldn't be a concern would it?

    Gender is a silly thing to ask to begin with, imo. Mail order brides?

    If it's for ID purposes just require fingerprints. Makes more sense. Some countries do that already.
     
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    Dang it - I was all set to say something profound, but must re think before I type :rolleyes:
     
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    Of course finger prints are indeed the failsafe for a person’s identification but the idea of having as much immediate accurate information as possible is for “glance” identification purposes.
    That said, hair color can be changed on a whim and over time weight can change dramatically from the original printing of the picture. Birth names do not necessarily reflect the sex of a person (e.g. Leslie, Evelyn) and eye color can differ from the picture by someone’s preference of colored contact lenses.
    If a last ditch right now type of identification were to be required, I would think that one’s sex would be the most practical way to help verify a person’s identification.

    What gender 1% - 2% of the population identifies is shouldn’t be the benchmark for changing the readily available methods of identifying a person on the absolute best piece of identification a person can obtain.
     
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    But then you'd still be relying on visual cues for the determination of sex, would you not? Unless they make you pull down your pants, what good is that?
     
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    With some of the custom’s lines I have been through, I doubt if I’d object too heavily to that if it would get me through faster should some question of my identification came into consideration.

    Again, fingerprints are all well and good and frankly, I’m behind that but matching up fingerprints even in this day and age can take time in some cases.

    To be sure, even a line at the bank or a grocery store is quite unnerving for me and believe me, a line at the airport especially going through customs makes me want to get crazy so for me, if all it takes is a check box with M on it to make it simpler, I’m all for that too.
     
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    Agree. Several women on the breast cancer forum (with their chemo bald heads and boob-less figures) get called "sir" now.

    Along that same line, I always wondered why department stores, etc. don't use fingerprint scanners for credit card transactions. Seems to me that would prevent massive fraud and they have all other types of scanners these days, but what do I know.
     
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    The fingerprint thing does bring up an interesting question which I’m going to present to a policeman friend of mine when I next see him.
    Namely, how fast does a fingerprint come back as a match or no-match?
     
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    Your print would only have to match what is imbedded in the card chip, not some database.
     
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    If a bank is robbed, is a bulletin issued to be on the lookout for a gender-less person? If an Amber Alert is issued for a missing child, be on the lookout for ???
     
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    My man Ed!!
     
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