Norman Vincent Peal & 44th President

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  1. Joy Martin

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    Not me, my mind was so closed on our 44th President.

    But I always had a Open Mind to the Power of Positive Thinking.

    Think it, believe it, and you can have it.

    Evidently so did the 44th President and his family/

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-peale-213220/

    And so did the Millions that put him in Office in 2016.

    Did you all know this?
     
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    The article is petty good except for the Header which insists that Peale taught Trump how to worship himself.

    I have read “The Power of Positive Thinking” and have listened to a few of his V. Peale’s sermons (live) and at no point does he point to self worship but instead, points to God and how we, through the positive aspects of the Word, can attain self confidence.
    Biblically speaking, there is no reason why a believer should ever feel a lack of self confidence and Peale simply brought out those aspects which support positive thinking.
    Self love, maybe, but not self worship.

    Do Note: If D. Trump worships himself then that’s between he and God but if some of Donald’s speeches are to be believed, I think he has a personal relationship with the Almighty, the reason why we can have confidence.
     
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    What is wrong about worshipping yourself, that is strong, but how about respecting yourself and having faith in yourself...Millions tear themselves apart and could use a good course of Positive Thinking...

    I embraced Science of Mind in the 80;s and got a huge dose of confidence and knowing I am fine and those who knock me are really ignorant and jealous.

    Science of Mind is founded by Ernest Holmes....do you know it Bobby Cole????

    If the election were today, DJT has my vote,and if only I didn't have that Voter Fraud Fear....
     
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    The article that Joy posted is from Politico, which is one of the most liberal sources of “news” online; so it is no wonder that they are trying to make both President Trump and Norman Vincent Peale look bad. Since he had not even been elected president in 2015 when that was written, it was probably some of the liberal rhetoric to try and stop people from voting for him.
    Maye that is why it refers to him as the 44th president, when everyone knows that Trump is “45”, and Obama was #44.
     
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  5. Joy Martin

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    I could not find where Politico was making it sound like a bad experience. Did I miss something?

    Here is the last paragraph in the Politico summary....


    Already it is clear that, thanks to Norman Vincent Peale and the magic of branding, Donald Trump is one of the most self-confident and most successful-seeming candidate the nation has ever seen. The question is whether the product will live up to the ad.

    My daughter mentioed this too when I gave her the article from Politico.
     
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    The part that you are missing is that by definition, the word Worship means to have a particular adoration for Diety and the writer of Politico knows that.
    Unless Donald J. Trump believes himself to be a god, he can not nor does not worship himself.
    But again, Norman Vincent Peale would not even remotely tell someone or lead someone to worship themselves nor does it say for us to do that in his book.

    Oh, and yes, I have delved into Science of Mind and some of the principles with the system are similar to my own.
     
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    The implication is that a member of the clergy taught Trump to view himself as God.
    It's an intentional, lying, deceitful double-slander.
     
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    The main question for everyone, did Trump do what he said he would do or at least try and do what he said he would but might have been suppressed by the many many leftist in the fed establishment. Not a man alive today would withstand the 24/7 assault of lies and coup process unleashed on Trump. There is no doubt who the real criminals are, and have been. Present today even stronger due to the two tier system of laws, this bunch of maggots that feed on our dollar each day still shove down any willing persons throat pure garbage. On election day they will all gather and drink and giggle on how much they accomplished by destroying our justice system to destroy the only man since Eisenhower to actually try and do something for all Americans, even those maggots who are standing there guzzling down the taxpayer paid for champagne. Trump or else for me 2024, if he loses it will be because we have more morons than we had before the last election. To compare Trump to this halfwit slobbering idiot we have now is a no brain er.. How much has this idiot in the white house cost each American, use your calculator you'll need it. The only people who made money are the original thieves before Trump was elected and they are not going to relinquish it without a gun fight, no matter how many Americans suffer for their greed and corruption.
     
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