Just another day in the life of these shootings. And what does the NRA say, we all need to be carrying a weapon to defend ourselves. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...shooting-least-two-people-injured/1133763001/
As far as I am aware, the NRA doesn't have a membership here. You might want to write and ask them if you think they were responsible. Perhaps you have information that I don't but I hadn't heard that anyone with the NRA was involved with it, however.
It seems as long as I remember when all these mass shootings began, the NRA is always mentioned as being in control of all the loose guns in our country.
@Joy Martin The NRA is merely an organization whose purpose it is to promote the shooting sports. It has been known to speak out, often foolishly, in response to illegal firearms use. I was a member years ago, but gave it up after an announcement they made supporting some certain "gun control" legislation. I realized then, that NRA in reality did little, and could do little, to protect my 2nd. Amendment Rights. I did a bit of snooping just now, and a few facts really opened my eyes. First, number of guns owned per capita, by State, revealed Wyoming had the most: 229 guns owned per resident! Almost incredible! But, could you ever guess which state was second? Washington, D.C.! 68guns each! The least? East Coast states, New York, Rhode Island, Delaware, Massachusetts, about 5 per person, still remarkably high. If these stats should be questioned, here is where I got them: https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153 Clearly, there are millions upon millions of firearms in private ownership in America. Possibly several hundred million. Thus, if say 1000 of them are used to commit a crime, that number represents 5/1,000,000 (five-millionths) of the total. Statistically that number nearly equals zero. Guns used to commit crimes are most commonly not from within this horde of privately-owned firearms, but rather result from criminals exchanging guns, thefts, and legally purchased arms by the future criminal-minded individual, as has been the case in a number of recent shootings. Your reference to "loose" guns is curious: I've never heard it expressed that way before. Would we consider those arms located within the everyday citizens' homes as loose? Frank
Frank, I know what the NRA is and the parents, many govt officials and many organizations are and have been fighting the NRA and their backing of all the 300million or so guns in our country. That anyone can get their hands on from the stores, gun shows, online, you name it. I happen to detest the gun world and seems like I'm alone in my thoughts here. People can and are making their own a lot these days as they are learning from the net. The Las Vegas killings come to mind, what was it some 58 that crazy killed from the hotel. Does one have to be a parent who lost a child, a relative who lost one too in the last couple decades to get this? You mention shooting sports, we need 300M for sports? Thanks.
I remember when Columbine happened. I remember President Clinton telling students to say hello to “someone who’s not in your group.” Things have probably escalated to physical aggression before the target decides to shoot up his school. He has to feel he’s lost everything and can’t continue to deal with the abuse, coming from every direction. When it becomes taboo: to gang up on someone in your school, to chronically and methodically ostracize, isolate, alienate, provoke and harass another student, the shootings will stop. But, that’s not going to happen. Hostile group behavior develops quickly and once it’s established, they’ll just take it underground, if confronted. This didn’t go on in the fifties, sixties or seventies, back when most kids were actually raised and taught empathy and decency. If someone had a conflict, they didn’t try to destroy the person by turning everyone against them. It wouldn’t have worked. Everyone wouldn’t have gone along with it, quietly or otherwise. They knew right from wrong. Every student and teacher in the school should be interviewed by enforcement within days of a shooting. It makes no sense at all to not take every step to find out what led up to the most devastating thing that happens in this country, over and over again.
As I see it, the kids of the 80's on have been exposed to all the awful powerful hateful videos, this was not how I was raised nor my daughter. We didn't have any of it.
@Joy Martin This is very true. Still, as kids, we were exposed to quite a multitude of violence in movies, and on T-V. The violence, though, paled into insignificance compared to today's. Most everyone we knew as kids, most families, possessed firearms; many fathers hunted with their kids, rabbit being quite desirable on the dinner table in our neighborhood. I had access to my Dad's guns: the thought of using one against anyone, even one most hated, did not materialize. Ever. Frank
I read this AM, that the students and their parents held a vigil, but two politicians were invited and the vigil turned into politics. A lot of the students and their parents left and ended up reorganizing in another area. One student said, "This vigil was to remember those that were injured and the student that died, nothing more. Gun Control politics should have never been involved with this and that's why I left."
Never know what news one will wake up to, this is NOT the country I was born and raised in. https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-atf-lapd-investigation-20190508-story.html
Are you kidding me?...you're telling me an 80 year old American is shocked at learning someone is making and selling guns illegally?... seriously? Please don't reply, I have nothing more to say....
Followup articles indicate that guy was a firearms dealer, and apparently it is not unusual for a firearms dealer to have that many firearms (or more.) He was arrested because of certain assault rifles that are illegal in CA. Another "nothing whatsoever to do with the NRA" article.
My remarks concerning NRA and Law Enforcement earlier today, elsewhere: "NRA "goes" with the side giving them the most dough. Then, they make conciliatory statements aimed at pacifying folks like you and me. I dropped my NRA membership many years ago, when they publicly supported some kind of "assault" ban....." "L.E. has NO respect for US, the criminals. We justify their budgets, their power, their ever-presence, while we pay their way. There oughta be a law......banning L.E. as it stands today." Frank
I don't think you "know what the NRA is" at all and your remarks underline that fact. From the NRA bylaws: The purposes and objectives of the National Rifle Association of America are: 1. To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, especially with reference to the inalienable right of the individual American citizen guaranteed by such Constitution to acquire, possess, collect, exhibit, transport, carry, transfer ownership of, and enjoy the right to use arms, in order that the people may always be in a position to exercise their legitimate individual rights of self-preservation and defense of family, person, and property, as well as to serve effectively in the appropriate militia for the common defense of the Republic and the individual liberty of its citizens; 2. To promote public safety, law and order, and the national defense; 3. To train members of law enforcement agencies, the armed forces, the militia, and people of good repute in marksmanship and in the safe handling and efficient use of small arms; 4. To foster and promote the shooting sports, including the advancement of amateur competitions in marksmanship at the local, state, regional, national, and international levels; 5. To promote hunter safety, and to promote and defend hunting as a shooting sport and as a viable and necessary method of fostering the propagation, growth and conservation, and wise use of our renewable wildlife resources. The Association may take all actions necessary and proper in the furtherance of these purposes and objectives. You seem to miss the point that if guns are legislated out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, only CRIMINALS will have guns. Is that the society you wish to live in?