Some Americans Are Unhappy Supporting Ukraine

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    I've gotten from two sources that U.S. troops are being moved to Europe as entire units. I don't know the purpose, but defense of the Baltic States is one possibility. Russia is threatening Lithuania since they are blocking access to the Russian exclave on the Baltic, a little like if Canada were to block access overland to Alaska. Lithuania and the other Baltics don't believe that the U.S. will defend them if Russia attacks, so our hand is being forced to see how far America will go in their defense.
     
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    Wellllll you know how a good war can stimulate a failing economy.
    I think I will start writing my reps again. We have all had enough of illegal wars! And I definitely don't want this president as Commander.
     
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    Our government is willing to arm anyone in the world while doing its best to disarm Americans. It shouldn't be hard to figure out whose side they're on, or at least, whose side they're not on.
     
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    The broader picture is puzzling. Only a short time ago Putin seemed to be in line with the New World Order but his rescue of Russian-speaking people in Ukraine seems to have genuinely upset the globalists' plans. Perhaps he saw that Nato was surrounding Russia in a hostile manner and that he wasn't really a member of the club. That Ukraine repeatedly violated the Minsk agreements by attacking the sovereign states of Donetsk and Lugansk makes Ukraine the aggressor, not Russia.
    We will eventually see the truly nazi government that Nato inspired. Notwithstanding that Zelenskii is Jewish, after the Russians, the other minorities in Ukraine will be targeted and Jews won't be spared.
     
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    Trump was well aware of the Ukraine situation, or rather his Secretary of State Mr. Pompeo was. NATO was making overtures to allow Ukraine to join NATO and that was what started this entire thing. The war has been removed from the media, except for Biden saying he was defending the Liberal World Order by fighting the Russians. The Russians have declared victory and incorporated parts of Eastern Ukraine into Russia now, so if Zelenskyy attacks them now, he is attacking Russia and that may spark a nuclear response.
     
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    Candice Owens did a good video on this subject. On the Ben Shapero radio show a few days ago. Never heard it said so well without prejudice or malice. Just facts. Everyone should hear listen to that one.
     
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    In this circumstance I think Russia is right. Not completely sure but so far, it's my opinion. I can't stand the sicko warmongering piano player. And how a whole nation would vote for him is beyond me.
    Anyone who knows the true history of the Bolsheviks that murdered and starved to death millions of Russians would understand this better.
    We just watched a movie last week that hit on Stalin and his allies, 'Mr. Jones' a true story about a reporter trying to interview Stalin. One house he stopped at the children were eating their dead father laying in snow in back yard. Life can bring out the beast in us.
     
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    Putin is certainly no angel. A political philosopher was the target of an assassination attempt over the weekend. His daughter was killed, but he escaped injury. The Western media is painting him as an associate of Putin, but neither Putin nor the target acknowledge any connections. Russia blames the Ukraine for targeting civilians with assassination. There is also mention that Ukraine is using chemical weapons to try to take the nuclear reactor now, as conventional attacks haven't worked, and they are afraid of damaging the reactor. Chemical weapons it is, although I haven't heard what type. The U.S. has a significant number of bioweapons plants in Ukraine, so it is possible they will release another of our weapons similar to Covid on the world.

    Isn't life interesting?
     
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    I don't think world leaders worry as much they think they are protected in their exclusive bunkers, but who would want to live in a world after nukeclear war? This isn't like the WW11 bomb, its more dangerous.
     
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    What worries me is the almost universal adoration of Zelenskyy. Especially by people I know are incompetent and corrupt.
     
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    I've toured Greenbriar and I would not want to live like that for an extended period of time.
     
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    They are probably implicitly expressing the point that from 2014 onward the U.S., NATO, and the EU were manipulating UA for economic and strategic advantages. That is, U.S. government officials were meeting with ultranationalist counterparts plus making deals over natural resources and businesses that UA abandoned as it de-industrialized across two decades. The EU also wanted the same as it kept pushing UA to move away from trade with RU, and NATO dangling the membership carrot without intending to give it, as part of the U.S. grand chessboard strategy of using hundreds of military bases and installations to control other countries.
     
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    They don't have to fight in the wars they get us involved in they send our young men and now women to die for their gains. Of course, if anyone is to rule the world so far, I'm glad it's us, so it's a double edge sword kind of thing for me.
     
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    I think too it is about world domination and power. NATO has practically surrounded Russia now and although Putin may not be any better, I can understand him not wanting that.
    I don't think we should be involved in that war at all. It seems our leaders, 'no telling how long' has been selling us out to China and Russia. NWO order?
     
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