Trump 2024

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  1. Mary Stetler

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    There are states that refuse to take Kennedy off the ballot even at his request. Sadly some with still vote for him as an anti vote.
     
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    I'm not familiar with that statement but it could have something to do with the fact that about 70% of the Jewish vote in the United States goes to Democrats, or that a recent poll indicated that Jewish voters in the United States favored Harris by 65/34%.
     
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    I can't find it in writing anywhere right now but in a speech he said that if he lost Jewish voters would be to blame. I think they said only 40% were backing Trump.

    I'm just not sure why so many are in the Harris camp.
     
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    I think the Jewish bloc has the current administration where they want them, and the feel Trump will put peace and a stop to the dying above the support for the war in the Middle East. He did, after all, basically have the entire Middle East at peace during his term in office, and it was getting better and better. That was all upended when Biden eased the sanctions on Iran, thus allowing it to gain funds to build the forces in Lebanon and Yemen. The domestic Jewish voter doesn't seem to see that, and is only interested in the current happenings, not in the background causing it. I suspect Trump probably feels betrayed after all the effort that was put into that area, and that he gets no credit for the massive effort he and his administration put into Israel.
     
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    I have never understood why so many Jews vote for Democrats. The Democrats invariably end up supporting the Palestinians despite what I wrote above.
     
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    I don't doubt that he did. He tends to react to things in that way, and it's probably particularly frustrating to him because he is clearly the most pro-Israel candidate on the ballot. Sometimes, people equate Israel and the Jewish people, forgetting that a large number of American Jews are not pro-Israel.
     
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    Ken nailed it.

    I remember when I first began to understand Jewish voters through a Jewish friend who was a moderator on a political group. My friend was a conservative and he explained the Jewish mindset to me, particularly at that time, northeastern American Jews. There are Jews who are very open about being Jewish and hating Israel and particularly Netanyahu. I will never understand that but then I can't understand Democrats or liberals either.

    I wish Trump had better self control but we all know that he doesn't. This is not an election with a perfect candidate and I have no difficulty whatsoever in seeing that Trump is better than Kamala.
     
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    And Democrats are afraid to go to Republican rallies? Dems are the dangerous ones. Of course they wanted Trump in prison and hat most charges have been dropped finally. They cannot see that destroying the political opponent is what 'destroys democracy'. O course actual democracy is mob rule after all.:mad:
     
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    I don't know how far the conspiracies go. Still, if the Democrats did have a plan for the assassination of Trump, they would want it to be attributed either to a lone gunman who could be dismissed as a nut or to a foreign government that the Democrats could then threaten to war with, given that they are the Party of war, anyhow.
     
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    The Democrats? Or the duopolitan Uniparty?
     
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    That's a good point, in one way. However, it's the same thing in another. Whatever you call them, the Democrat Party's agenda for the past many years has been one of an egalitarian world government engaged in constant war until everyone finally submits, and registered Republicans who hold the same agenda could be called Democrats since their goals are the same. The term "neoconservative" suggests that there is something about our democratic republic that they want to conserve, and I don't think that's true of people like the Cheneys, the Bush's, Romney, and the like. Since anyone can register with whatever political party they want, that probably shouldn't define them. While there have indeed been registered Republicans who have held to the same goals, I don't think it's realistic to equate the two as being one and the same anymore. During the Bush eras, and even the Reagan years (although that is likely to make enemies), that may have been true. But Trump and many others in the Republican Party have departed from that, and you don't find people in the Democrat Party who will depart from the globalist agenda. While not every registered Democrat is on board, they may as well be since they vote for those who are.
     
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    I am befuddled by the Dems calling for Trump to tone down the violent rhetoric when they are the ones advocating violence. It is like some Blue cities, where the victim gets arrested and the perpetrator gets released without bond. I guess it the the ol' "misdirection". You accuse your opponent of doing what you are doing and try to deflect the blame for what is happening onto others.
     
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    When Trump was being interviewed on the Guttfeld show, he was simply giving the percentages of voters that actually vote.
    Something in the neighborhood of only 40% of Evangelicals actually vote and a similar percentage of practicing Jews vote etc.
    The one that alarms me is the small percentage of gun owners that vote even though the NRA backs Trump.

    Just a note though: I heard part of one of his speeches where he grabbed a name out of the air and said, Harry, get off your fat butt and go vote. Was he chastising everyone named Harry?
    I’m sure the media will say he is.
     
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    Yeah, the small number of gun owners who vote is really sad. I guess they don't want their gun rights to continue and are okay with annual government inspections of their firearms by a Harris Administration as she has proposed in the past. If she should get elected (or selected), I'll bet those who didn't vote will wish they had.
     
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    The non-voters will blame the Republicans for not putting up the perfect candidate.
     
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