I Am So Tired Of Politics

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  1. Beth Gallagher

    Beth Gallagher Supreme Member
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    With all respect, Tony... he had that in 2016 and we see what happened. So disheartening.
     
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    Abortion has never been illegal, when done for medical reasons, but they now act like it was and that Trump would make it completely illegal, which he has said over and over that he would not do.
    It is just a topic that they use to pull votes to the democrats, by acting like it could be declared illegal.

    I was born in 1945, and my mother had a tumor in her stomach. Her doctor wanted her to have an abortion and told her that neither she nor the baby (me) would live if she did not do it, so there was no question of it not being legal to do, even way back then. He believed it was necessary to save her life.
    It just was not used as a method of birth control, which is what they try to push it as being now, as a woman’s right.
     
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    Hey, even if she's dead she can still vote "D". :p
     
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    I Agree, I also feel with all the distractions he had, he achieve more than most Presidents. On the other side of the coin, It just seems the republicans are slow at producing bills. Mind you I don't follow politics that closly, this just what it seems like to me.
     
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    Like the threats of Social Security running out of money, I think both sides bring the issue up because it does galvanize people. People who believe that an unborn baby is a human being are fervent that abortion should be banned, and it's easy for them to view everyone in favor of abortion as being supportive of murder. Conversely, the issue of abortion rights is so firmly held on the other side that people who couldn't get pregnant if they tried will hate anyone in favor of banning abortions, and it wouldn't matter if the person was running for a county treasurer position. It's intended to get people to the polls. I hold views on the issue, but I quit considering abortion as a voting issue many years ago after Republican after Republican would be elected to office (when banning abortion was a winning issue) on a pro-life agenda, only to do absolutely nothing on that issue after taking office. To me, it's like Social Security; it comes up every election year, but it's irrelevant.
     
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  6. Beth Gallagher

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    I'm pretty sure I will end up throwing the "R" lever and vote the party line. I just don't feel that great about it. I'd love for there to be some candidates that I actually feel good about supporting for a change. What a pipe dream, huh?
     
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    Beth,
    I know sometimes we only have pipe dreams. The wife and I when we 1st retired used to discuss moving to Texas because we'd like the politics better. That was our pipe dream. We're stuck in a Democratic state, with a dislike for the governing methods. Hope is for a better future.
     
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    Watch out for the down-ballot "non-partisan" races, often State Supreme Court, etc.

    Look into who is running and you'll find an awful lot of money comes from specific parties and they toe the Party line in their agendas.

    How that's legal escapes me.
     
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    Lots of folks--including me--are sick of all the texts and emails soliciting contributions, (yeh, we could text 'STOP'). It's really off-putting and annoying. It's tone deafness on the part of the Republicans, big time.
     
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    Imagine if no-one voted in an election...what would happen?
     
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    The fewer people vote, the easier it is for extreme forces to be elected. It is not good if voter turnout falls or entire groups of people do not take part in elections.

    You also have to accept that you are not in the majority with your opinion. Unfortunately, this is hardly ever the case nowadays because everyone believes that their opinion is the only one that should count. Everyone else is too stupid to recognise the ‘truth’. It's easy to forget that other people have different circumstances, different experiences, a different environment,... which then leads to people having different opinions. That's not better or worse - just different. We should return to the point where this is accepted.
     
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    Beth, I do understand your frustration but then again, if we're not paranoid and in wonder, we aren't paying attention.
    I try not to comment anymore about politics because of all the crap going on.
     
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    Jacob, do you remember Edward Murrow, the " Good Night and Good Luck " anchor?
    Been this way for years.
     
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    I don't understand why, in this day and age, people don't use birth control. Get your tubes tied! or something. If abortions were not paid for, people might think twice. I know I don't want my taxes paying for them. I think that is the issue that should be advertised. Not whether abortions should be legal but that they should not be paid for by the government to start with. I think they are wrong but we need to get others to THINK. There are videos that show what happens to the fetus during an abortion but you can't just put those out there where kids can see. I know I could not watch.
     
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    In my 60 years around medicine I have never known a late-term abortion done "for the health of the mother". There are, however, instances when it happens early in pregnancy although even that is rare. Mostly it is just eliminating an inconvenience or embarrassment. With all the options available in birth control, I just don't understand the need. All methods of BC do have failures however, but they, again, are usually very rare.
     
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