A Different Take On The Climate Issue

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    I have read this, too, and I think we might even have mentioned it in some of the earlier climate change posts. There is kind of a circuit that the sun goes through, and we are supposed to be going into one of the cold times again. I think it was something like a 400 year cycle, and the last cold one was around the 1700’s when they had the famines because the crops couldn’t grow, and then it warmed up, but now cooling back down again.
    This is a whole different thing than trying to say that we are having the climate change because of gas from cows, and other emissions that affect the atmosphere.
    From what I can tell, the reason that they bring cows into this at all is because they are promoting veganism worldwide. I agree that we can produce much more grains than beef on the same acreage, and thus feed more people, but I don’t believe that this is overheating our world.

    Here is an earlier thread on a similar topic.
    http://www.seniorsonly.club/threads/global-warming-or-another-ice-age.394/#post-2608
     
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    The link simply provided background for the changes seen. I knew there had been discussions of this type before, but there may be more background needed.
     
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    While I am one hundred percent certain that there are scientists who have the knowledge, the equipment, and the resources to come to far more accurate conclusions than I would be able to on my own, they have been all over the map on the issue over the past several years, particularly since this has become a political, as opposed to a scientific issue. Plus, they have been caught fudging data, hiding data, lying, and even setting up temperature-monitoring equipment in paved areas, which are known to hold heat, thus rendering inaccurate high temperatures. Because it has become such a political issue, I don't know who or what we can trust, if anything.
     
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    This is an excellent article, and I read one that must have been a reprint in another of my news sources today . I think that this very real possibility of colder weather is something that is a great discussion topic ! I am sure that I have watched a video that explains about it besides the one I posted in the other thread, and I will see if I can find it again, and post it here.

    Disclaimer: I don’t like the cold anymore so I am sure I would think we are going to have an ice age whether that is true or not.
     
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    Having been a "weather person" in the past, I understand instrument shelter siting and requirements. I knew there was incidental errors where the shelters (containing the temperature and humidity sensors) were too close to paved areas, but I had never seen deliberate fudging of data until I went to Fort Ross Park in California. There in the middle of a grassy field, ideal for placing an instrument shelter was a white shelter with the base surrounded in black rocks. This was obviously done to inflate the temperature readings at that site. I was finally convinced that deliberate tampering with the data was taking place. I have kicked myself ever since for not photographing the situation.
     
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    I don't know anything about the U.S. developing or using weather modification as a weapon, but the USSR allegedly had it is some form, so I assume we did as well. The Russians offered to use it to divert several typhoons in the Indian Ocean after the USSR fell in 1991. I don't recall if the offer was accepted of if it actually worked.
     
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