Are You Comfortable Around Guns?

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  1. Tex Dennis

    Tex Dennis Very Well-Known Member
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    I shall share what we do and I love it, we do not shoot bullseye targets but realistic targets, some stages we do are started laying in a bed with cover and weapon in nightstand drawer or on top have done both loaded and unloaded and note times differences which are huge, (some times starting unloaded the targets are gone before some even get loaded, showing that is not a thing to do other than to get you hurt) at sound of buzzer deploy weapon at 1 or more targets while in bed your choice as to position just cant touch floor, sometimes done at night with flashlights hand held, usually a reload in bed involved distance usually 3-5 yds or less to multiple targets. Targets available for a few pre determined seconds only) Like they are not just going to stand still!

    Another at night with road flare only lighting changing tire deploy weapon at vehicles length at multiple targets while taking cover behind vehicle.

    Another standing beside vehicle with pack or briefcase in hand have 2-3 targets pop up on other side of vehicle
    with target exposed for a mere few seconds then goes down, either day or night.

    Another with strong primary arm/hand in medical sling with keys in hand approach your vehicle and have multiple targets appear and have to deploy your weapon with WEAK hand, engage targets and reload ONE handed weak hand and repeat, some targets painted as to simulate hard cover or a vest and only neck and head is visible.

    Usually we use and recreate actual police reports of real instances happened. Distances and all, I have been involved in these types of matches a very long time. Usually 150 rounds or so fired times say 20 entrants 3000 rounds shot + -. Many times starting with LESS ammo than required and you have to retrieve your partner's ammo to finish the stage, usually on a dummy in belt or pockets. Some stages are limited as to round counts others are unlimited, ALL on the clock. Some allow make up rounds other's do not. We have had 67-70 entrants at times! Everyone helps!

    Halloween we are having one starting with not enough ammo to finish and you have to deploy after getting a 2nd weapon to finish. Another with target running at you with rubber knife that turns to edge at 7 yds as you probably cant react fast enough to prevent injuries at that distance. At the 2' mark if not stopped you are considered stabbed and out of it. Arm length plus blade length.
     
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    I am totally comfortable around guns, especially the one I keep in my nightstand. :)
     
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  3. Tex Dennis

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    I just hope you practice a lot and train well to be prepared, just shooting at a stationary target standing still is not it, not the once a year trip to range, also get some state law advice and or courses know your laws, practice often under stress stay safe. Try to find some places with events like I described to practice and realize your faults and admit them work on them to improve. My neighbor is in her 80's and survived to still be alive after attacked and beat almost to death due to practice, now does talks to others on her ordeal. Not a cent paid to her nor would accept any. She was crippled for life though. She does it to help others.
     
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    My best friend and neighbor crippled for life now from a home invasion attack mostly recovered with grandson at my home on 7-4-19 hard to believe she was beat and left for dead but removed her attacker from the gene pool and survived, she was one of the main proponents of our church starting the refuse to be a victim classes and gives talks to groups on her ordeal and what happened in very correct detail, not for the weak to hear the reality of what can happen and what being prepared can do if it ever does. Under 18 have to be with parents and all sign a release prior.
     
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    I would be UNCOMFORTABLE without a gun in the house.

    Hal
     
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  7. Tex Dennis

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    I had 15 for breakfast today and then took a few with shooting with me that had never shot 1911's and all had good time
     
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    Yes, the Colt Government model 1911 .45 caliber semi-auto pistol is a very popular, historic, hard-hitting handgun!
    Harold
     
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  9. Frank Sanoica

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    @Hal Pollner
    So popular that in fact, quite a number of firearms makers are offering them; let's see how many I can remember: Colt, of course; Ruger; Smith & Wesson; Auto-Ordnance; Springfield Armory.
    Frank
     
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    Today I had my Wilson and STI with me could list 10 or more easy I have 6 if them.
     
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    Next 2 Saturdays we will be shooting 1911 matches here, then a 2-3 gun in November for Thanksgiving
     
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    @Tex Dennis
    Much can be said, from an engineering standpoint, both in favor of John Browning's 1911 design and against it, as well as all other auto-pistol designs both single and double action.

    1911: Has several lockwork features not found to my knowledge in hardly any other design: the flat, three-fingered spring which forces the grip safety outward, raises the disconnector upwards, and serves as trigger return is claimed to sometimes break, though I've never seen one. The barrel link which swings the barrel downwards out of battery is unusual. Great handgun with nice, short trigger travel, single-action only.

    Sig Sauer, such as P-220 or P-226: Relatively expensive. Has a poorly-designed mechanism to engage the trigger transfer bar upwards against the sear. Consists of a tiny, "C"-shaped whisker spring which disables the arm if it fails, or parts become sticky with use. Visible here below the transfer bar:
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    Image may not be Sig, possibly Beretta, but illustrates the spring. If it fails to raise the bar, the gun will only fire UPSIDE-DOWN. Single and double action. Over-rated, but still a nice-feeling, ergonomical gun. Favored by many official forces. A higher than usual possibility of failure removes it from my reliance as protection of my life.

    Smith and Wesson original Model 59: My choice as "king". All springs are multi-coil springs, low-stressed. Successor to the 39, which had single-stack, low capacity magazine. 59 was double-stack mag., poor ergonomics, critics said it felt like "holding a 2X4". Offered (finally) in all-stainless steel, as Model 659, then later as Model 6906, with much-improved grips, great feel, offered in several varying forms, such as double action only. Normally single and double action. This design was offered in Model 1076, as provided to the FBI, 10 mm caliber, with a larger lever-operated hammer-drop safety. FBI soon discontinued use, prompting S & W to continue production for civilian distribution. I sold mine to my nephew, preferring to stay with the alloy-framed 669, which is a compact version 9mm, lower capacity, with standard slide-mounted hammer drop safety. Here is the 1076 and 669:
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    All S/S


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    Model 669. Alloy frame, S/S barrel and lock-work.
     
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    top beretta 92
     
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    @Tex Dennis
    I kind of thought so, since I remember the Sig transfer bar as being flat, but the image was the best I found illustrating the spring i spoke of. Thanks!
    Frank
     
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