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Biden Justice Department Raids Trump's Mar-a-lago Home

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  1. Thomas Stillhere

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    Very true, several years ago on graduation at West Point one individual graduating took his shirt off and showed his cuban dictator large tattoo. It took a few days but he was booted out. We even have foreigners at West Point so nothing surprises me any longer. The communist always new the greed would eventually bring us down. I have to say all this money floating around in our federal government and offices never started until slick willy was impeached. It is his and hitlary's way of getting even. They started accumulating a massive amount of money from his slobbering speeches and spent it on the heads of our Feds. Now we see the results.
     
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    Well according to the constitution it is a crime and forbidden for the military to take up arms against any citizen of the US. If that ever happened their punch card will be pulled for sure. Now that has already happened once recently at WACO with the use of armor against women and children sanctioned by the liberal scumbags in our government. The old guard were standing around running their mouths on open camera and mike talking about those people like they were dogs. This was the klan members and people like biden beating their chest in chambers trying to outdo one another trying to act tough. They have always been a bunch of cowards. All they had to do to serve that simple warrant was to arrest the guy when he was out on his morning jog. Once again they skirted the actual law just so they could break in and search the place. I am more than happy to see those jack booted thugs participating be shot off the roof. I have no sympathy for them because they were too stupid to look at facts and the law and were just blind dirty work doers. They even brought them in from out of state to do the dirty work. Oklahoma City FBI were the target later but unfortunately innocent children were killed. I still don't believe McVeigh knew there was a nursery in that building. The simple point is people have been fed up with this bunch of scumbags for decades and not because they were traitors or activist, they were tired of the corruption and trash then as we are today. Unfortunately if changes don't come soon millions of people will rise up and it's all over for those people who have harmed this nation so badly. It will be like one huge snowball running downhill. I guess the worst thing is to watch this complicit news media coverage for the worst citizens imaginable. We're all right wing conspirators because they know we know who they are and what they are about to receive. They have never led the nation as a people but they rule over anyone outside their sorry party. They are so emboldened this past 14 years they have become dangerous and just down right dirty.
     
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    I always thought that was a good idea regarding taxes. Everyone stop paying until we have actual representation! It was done once. But now we will be shot.
     
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    @Thomas Stillhere It is also an oath taken by the military to protect against enemies both foreign and domestic. If the domestic enemy is a citizen, how do you interpret that? Also, how does the National Guard fit in when used to disperse domestic riots? Also, the oath includes following orders from superior officers acting within the uniform military code of justice. What constitutes legally disobeying a superior officer?
     
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    It appears that China is liquidating the American paper it holds. It doesn't want to dump it suddenly too early, as they wish to recover as much value as they can. When they do the final dump it will just be another nail in the coffin while the U.S. military holds emergency diversity meetings to ensure all is "balanced"
     
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    Politicians also that that oath, @Faye Fox . Hillary Clinton took the oath to "defend and protect" against all enemies foreign and domestic, and proceeded to hire a foreign firm to orchestrate a false flag dossier against the U.S. government for which she was never prosecuted. The oath doesn't seem to matter. Many of those taking the oath ARE the domestic enemies...and some are foreign enemies as well.
     
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    The answer is simple, the term domestic enemies was used by the framers to name the government. The National Guard is not federal and controlled by the States governors, it is really a police force already, only confused further by the unlawful use to fight foreign wars like over the past 30 years. That happens because the politicians destroyed the draft and gutted our military so bad it is incapable even today to protect the Nation should a surprise attack occur, it would take months to raise and train a fighting Army possibly longer due to so many youth not willing to protect the nation from any threat. If a citizen were a true domestic enemy he would be dealt with as a criminal by the police authority in that particular location. Domestic Enemies are specifically used by the framers to name Government, they knew full well at some point if we were to survive we would have to take down some of the leadership no matter who it was or where it originated at some point in time. That is written in the framework of the Constitution. It was never intended to present citizens as domestic terrorist or enemies, this came about by politicians like we see today playing word salad. Disobeying a superior officer usually only happens in war time and that would probably be getting people needlessly killed when it could have been avoided. None of us are required to commit suicide. One example that is pretty simple, I was at Fort Campbell in early 1966. We were out in the field having exercises preparing to go to Vietnam to relieve the 2nd Brigade 101st 506th Infantry, It started snowing the first day out in the field and became pretty dangerous due to the weather when we had helicopters coming into and out of camp areas. The Division commander recalled all the forces and had us brought in. Our Battalion commander was in his jeep when he passed our mess hall, he noticed two enlisted men out standing in the grease trap with no boots and their pants pants legs rolled up to their knees. He stopped his driver and turned around and came up to those men and ask them what they were doing, which they replied they were ordered by the mess sergeant to wade the filth and search for silverware. The full colonel then called the mess sergeant out from the building and told him if he wanted to be a sergeant the rest of the day he would personally climb into that pit and search for the silver himself. The men that were doing the dirty deed were told to go the the barracks and warm up and clean up. It was the funniest thing you could imagine to see that E-7 walking around in that freezing grease trap bare footed and his pants legs rolled up to his knees. The point is any military person who believes he has been given an unlawful order has the right to refuse. He would have legal counsel, and superiors do not try to fight the Adjutant Generals Office. In war time that old phrase fragging is real and there are crazy people who have no problem tossing a grenade on an officers quarters while he is sleeping. I was less than 75 feet from one such incident that was against my 1st sergeant, I have no idea why unless the perpetrator was a drug addict he would do that to this particular sergeant because he was a good leader.
    I'm sure a lot of people would disagree with what I have listed, especially the use of the National Guard to control riots. But like I said they are just a states police force that falls under the Governors control. Now active military, the guard and the reserve are needed to fight a war any more. We need a draft again but they would lose votes doing that, which was the predicate for killing it in the fist place like most of their illegal actions even today. I can't remember which of the framers that spoke about all this but it is written and easy to find.
    Pay special attention to quote number 11...


    Principles of Liberty
    1. The only reliable basis for sound government and just human relations is Natural Law.
    2. A free people cannot survive under a republican constitution unless they remain virtuous and morally strong.
    3. The most promising method of securing a virtuous and morally strong people is to elect virtuous leaders.
    4. Without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained.
    5. All things were created by God, therefore upon him all mankind are equally dependent, and to Him they are equally responsible.
    6. All men are created equal.
    7. The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things.
    8. Men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.
    9. To protect man's rights, God has revealed certain principles of divine law.
    10. The God-given right to govern is vested in the sovereign authority of the whole people.
    11. The majority of the people may alter or abolish a government which has become tyrannical.
    12. The United States of America shall be a republic.
    13. A constitution should be structured to permanently protect the people from the human frailties of their rulers.
    14. Life and Liberty are secure only so long as the Igor of property is secure.
    15. The highest level of security occurs when there is a free market economy and a minimum of government regulations.
    16. The government should be separated into three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial.
    17. A system of checks and balances should be adopted to prevent the abuse of power.
    18. The unalienable rights of the people are most likely to be preserved if the principles of government are set forth in a written constitution.
    19. Only limited and carefully defined powers should be delegated to the government, all others being retained by the people.
    20. Efficiency and dispatch require government to operate according to the will of the majority, but constitutional provisions must be made to protect the rights of the minority.
    21. Strong human government is the keystone to preserving human freedom.
    22. A free people should be governed by law and not by the whims of men.
    23. A free society cannot survive a republic without a broad program of general education.
    24. A free people will not survive unless they stay strong.
    25. "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none."
    26. The core unit which determines the strength of any society is the family; therefore, the government should foster and protect its integrity.
    27. The burden of debt is as destructive to freedom as subjugation by conquest.
    28. The United States has a manifest destiny to be an example and a blessing to the entire human race.

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    If you haven't listened to Viva Frei, you might want to give it a try. He is a Canadian lawyer, but he discusses topics relevant to the United States as well as Canada. In this episode, he and a US attorney discuss the FBI raid on Trump's home, among other topics. This isn't a news item but they bring up some interesting things and you might learn something.
     
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    The FBI now issues a warning about an impending civil war because of threats against judges and law enforcement. Somehow the burning buildings of 2020 and the demonstrations and attempted assault/assassination of a Supreme Court Justice do not upset the Justice Department, but a few posts on social media by Trump supporters are justification for a warning from the FBI.

    Watch the latest Dan Bongino post on YouTube for info on the raid and the warrant. He was a former NYPD officer who moved to the Secret Service and has since resigned because of what was happening in the Federal Government of the U.S. He explains the difference between Federal Law Enforcement and local law enforcement/police. It is fascinating to listen to the narrative. According to Dan, the Feds, when they release info on a raid always put the most significant items found at the top of the announcement. For the Trump raid, the top item was the Roger Stone clemency agreement, the text of which had already appeared in the Washington Post when it occurred. Interesting. How "Top Secret" can it get???
     
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    That's because the ones who were burning buildings and cars, assaulting police and citizens, and attempting to assassinate Judge Kavanaugh were on their side.
     
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    I had a hunch yesterday and have been tossing some possibilities that I hadn’t thought of before.

    The Treasury department which is part of the Executive Branch of government and is headed by the President.
    The IRS is part of the Treasury Department
    The Attorney General’s office is also part of the Executive Branch and of course, is headed by Joe B. at this time.
    The FBI is headed by the Attorney General’s office.

    The Executive Branch’s main job is enforcing the laws and federal regulations of this country.
    Note: A regulation and a law are totally different. When a law is broken, the accused is considered innocent until proven guilty.
    However, if someone were to break a regulation, they are automatically considered guilty and have to prove their own innocence.
    Executive orders are not laws, only Congress can make law. Executive orders are regulations.

    As per the Executive Branch’s request, Congress may approve the money to hire an additional 87 thousand IRS agents who will be part of the Criminal Investigations portion of the IRS.
    Note: Only those with the Criminal Investigations department of the IRS are armed.

    In my way of thinking, perhaps the siege on Trump’s property was a test run for later political ventures.
    Since Biden HAD to know about it because he’s technically the head honcho in front of the Attorney General’s office, if he’s successful and a war doesn’t break out then he can “executive order” any regulation he wants and it will be backed up by the FBI AND and an army consisting of over 100,000 fully armed IRS criminal division agents.
    If some civil conflict did occur, then he can demand that Martial Law be implemented and again, he has the full support of the AG and the Treasury Departments 100,000+ fully armed IRS agents.
    Note Again: If approved, the number of armed IRS agents in the United States combined with the FBI will exceed the number of soldiers with the 82nd Airborne Division, 101 st Airborne Division and the 173rd and then some.

    Now, whether or not those agents or however many agents will actually fire upon civilians is anyone’s guess.
     
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    I think the current goings-on are part of the effort to generate some kind of emergency that can be used to manipulate the election in November. ALL the polls show the Dems being walloped in the mid-terms, and the polls generally favor the Democrats (such as Hillary in 2016) since many conservative-leaning folks don't participate in pols or even answer the phone if they know there is a pollster on the other end. The lack of land lines make it even more difficult to obtain accurate polling information.

    All you posted is very true, and the enforcement arm of the Executive Branch in Obama's "civilian army" come to fruition.
     
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    Exactly, and that's why they're talking about civil war and generally making a huge issue out of every little nothing they can concoct.
     
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    They better go out and hire some more jack legs because they don't have enough to protect their own selves much less those thieves and tyrants in la la land. No one needs permission to remove and arrest a tyrannical government and we've already had one for 8 years then this half wit slobbering fool. They think they will be guarded but when the guards start seeing people armed coming for them then all bets are off for the real criminals. Honestly if they continue to poke people with a stick and threaten them using paid soldiers in our federal offices they are going to really face some stiff retribution. People aren't going to be satisfied with removing them but example making will be the topic for the day. All it will take is for our military to step in and tell them to resign or be resigned by other means. A huge bon fire of proof has already been burned by the real criminals and every person in America that still has a self owned brain know what these people did while that sorry kenyan was stealing his share of the booty. He was penniless when he came to office and when he left 8 years later had 12 million in his bank account, his man wife had another huge sum larger than that. Business must have been good with all the stealing taking place while that first money hand out had no audit or persons keeping tabs on who it all went to. We know nancy had her hooks into that solar power by giving huge sums of money to her brother in law for one solar company which failed and that was certainly the plan to declare bankruptcy. Just pure trash and thieves represent the once great Nation of the USA. They scowl and scoff and point fingers at normal Americans and act so rude and all the while lying about everything when ask a question concerning the peoples business. Our foreign enemies have more class than this bunch of losers we pay.
     
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