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Canning

Discussion in 'Crops & Gardens' started by Sheldon Scott, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. John Brunner

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    I take it you like that canner, Marie. I've read comments that some folks have a hard time getting the lid seated properly so it does not leak, and have also read of problem getting the lid off when done. What has your experience been? Those All Americans are regarded as being the Cadillac of the industry.
     
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    We have never had a minute's trouble with this one. it has wingnuts to tighten down and for past couple decades we have not had one bit of problem from ours.
    Maybe that changed lately, don't know but ours has been great, one before this one gave us problems, so we went ahead and spent the money for this.
     
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    I've really been leaning towards those, but the price...:eek:

    What did you have before...a gasket-lid Presto or Mirro or some other generic canner?
     
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    The price kept us away from it for a few years but the risk from the Presto which swelled up and almost blew up on Jake, that's when we went ahead and,' bit the price bullet'.
     
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    That's not good. I've heard of that happening with pressure cookers (I think they say to not pressure cook certain beans because the skins will come off and plug the vent and the relief valve.) That kind of stuff is another reason I was thinking of setting things up outside on a propane burner.
     
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    If you've seen our canning photos all our canning is done outside on the porch. We use a little tailgater burner, works great for past 15 or 18 yr,s?
     
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    @John Brunner , this is one picture, but tailgater burner isn't clear maybe I will find another one soon,
     
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    Looks like R2-D2's cousin. :D
     
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    LOL Beth, but it is the closest thing I'll get to AI or its robot buddies.
     
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    I don't want to jinx it but it has been a good one for us.
     
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    I don't know if you have read my comments on electric fences and deer @John Brunner. Some guys I knew in Pennsylvania had trouble with deer in their orchards, so they put up an electric fence and put pieces of apple along the fence. The deer would nibble the apples and get a shock. They then avoided apples even if they were on the ground outside the fence. My son (who used to work for Alaska Fish and Game) said they used a similar technique with bears. They used the tape version of electric fence around buildings where they kept fish samples but the bears would just push through the fence and break into the building. They then put bacon on the electric fence and the bears got shocked when they tasted the bacon. The sows then even taught the cubs not to touch the fences with bacon on them and the AF&G folks learned they could put up a fence and put bacon on it. The bears wouldn't cross it even if it wasn't electrified. We use electric fences to keep moose out of the cabbage and broccoli here. We don't bait it, but the moose could push through the fence or jump over it like deer, but they don't cross the fence once they get shocked even though they could easily do so. We also use the orange snow fence above rolled wire fencing. The moose seem to think it is a trap and don't cross that either, although they will push over most chain link fences and will break open the gates. I think the trick is to obstruct their vision so they can't make sure what is on the other side. Of course, you could just erect a 10 or 12 foot fence....:D
     
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    I know the electric fence works, we used for a while, and it only takes one shock for most animals to leave. And ours were low current.
     
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    I've heard of doing this for both bear and for the deer. I wasted my time and money putting up a 6' electric fence. I watched a Virginia Agriculture show years ago and the guy said to put a low perimeter fence around the main one...it can be single strand. The idea is that it stops the deer about 3'-4' from the primary fence, and because of their poor depth perception, they don't know they can easily jump both fences. I would electrify that strand and put the bacon/apples on it. I would not want to put an obscuring fence up because it's in the middle of my back field and I don't want my view blocked.

    The plants from my first garden got eaten in less than 7 days. The old 5 strand electric fence I put up sat unused for so long the vines wrapped around it and I took the strands down. I also ended up yanking a couple of posts.
     
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    The deer here jump over our 5' no climb fence like it nothing to it, one did critically injure itself on fence post. Jake put her down, skinned and froze her.
     
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    I was reading the manual for the Presto 16qt canner to figure out why they said that 1/2 pint and full pint jars could not be pressure canned in it. So now--with the added context of Beth's water bath observations--I understand that I misunderstood. The Amazon description was saying that ONLY those small jars may be processed via water bath in the 16qt canner (not that small jars may only be water-bathed.) I would assume that the quart jars are too tall to be submerged in it.

    I guess it doesn't really matter, because there are other ways to process quart jars in a water bath. Now I know that the Presto 16qt canner WILL pressure can small jars (it really made no sense that it wouldn't.) And most of the other 16qt canners have the same depth limitation.

    The Presto instructions also include an admonition against using propane burners or high-BTU stove tops: CAUTION! Do not use pressure canner on an outdoor LP gas burner or gas range over 12,000 BTU’s. Doing so may result in damage to the pressure canner and/or property damage and personal injury.

    Mirro says Do not use the Pressure Canner on an outdoor LP gas burner or gas range over 12,000 BTU’s.

    T-FAL says "Do not use pressure canner and cooker on any outdoor heat source such as a gas burner for a turkey fryer. This type of burner will soften the canner causing the bottom to warp. It may also result in property damage and/or personal injury. In addition, the food may not be safely processed."

    All American is silent on this issue.

    Perhaps some outdoor LP burners lack a burner control knob.
     
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